E46 or Track 350Z? (need advice)
09-07-2002, 01:32 AM
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Originally posted by WntA350z
All I have too add is BMW = Piece of Sh%t. With all the e46 motors that have been blowing and all the problems that they have given my advice is go with the Z. After 3 years that M3 will probably be in the shop same as ALL bmw's. Get the Z, wait for Nismo to come out with some sort of forced induction, then you'll put those dumb BMW'S to shame.
All I have too add is BMW = Piece of Sh%t. With all the e46 motors that have been blowing and all the problems that they have given my advice is go with the Z. After 3 years that M3 will probably be in the shop same as ALL bmw's. Get the Z, wait for Nismo to come out with some sort of forced induction, then you'll put those dumb BMW'S to shame.
So I guess it was a fluke that my BMW never saw the shop outside of (free) scheduled maintainence?
09-07-2002, 06:28 AM
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Boomer,
I read that you got your car today!! Congratulations!
I'd love to hear your thoughts on it. You got the exact color interior/exterior and transmission that I ordered. I haven't heard anyone else talk about the color combination. Would also like your impressions of the AT.
Give us a write-up when you stop driving all over OK and get out of the car.
Boomer,
I read that you got your car today!! Congratulations!
I'd love to hear your thoughts on it. You got the exact color interior/exterior and transmission that I ordered. I haven't heard anyone else talk about the color combination. Would also like your impressions of the AT.
Give us a write-up when you stop driving all over OK and get out of the car.
Boomer
09-07-2002, 01:25 PM
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Hrm, take it from folks who have driven both cars. I have an 01' M3 w/6spd not SMG (I wish now). Yes, the car had some major engine problems but that was limited to 3 months of the build date 9/01-11/01 so check the build date, if it has that talk to a dealer first and talk to them about spinning the main engine bearings, which is the primary reason the engines grenade.
If its not in those build dates, and has 3k miles its a helluva deal. Keep in mind that the car is a 50k+ car and has a MUCH higher resale and value retention than the Z. It will also be much much much more rare in a few months once the Z's have saturated the market.
The upkeep isn't that bad unless you like to break things and drive it like an idiot. Mine has 18k on it and I haven't had any unseen problems yet, and it drives MUCH better than the Z all the while with the ///M luxury.
If its not in those build dates, and has 3k miles its a helluva deal. Keep in mind that the car is a 50k+ car and has a MUCH higher resale and value retention than the Z. It will also be much much much more rare in a few months once the Z's have saturated the market.
The upkeep isn't that bad unless you like to break things and drive it like an idiot. Mine has 18k on it and I haven't had any unseen problems yet, and it drives MUCH better than the Z all the while with the ///M luxury.
09-11-2002, 11:41 AM
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are u kidding me...
The only issues for the M3
Production date of the month of November 2001 with SMG
If your car isn't a part of that production you're clear
Second...
call me biased, but i think the 350z is good for the money...but if u can get an M3..holy ****, that's apples to oranges. i doubt anyone in this entire forum can deny that an M3 can outperform the 350 in every performance-wise aspect...
The main thing the 350 has against the M3 is the price / performance ratio..that one i can win to 350 hands down...
so, if u are on a budget shoot for the 350,
BUT I WOULD GIVE MY LEFT ******** TO HAVE AN M3...
ok maybe not, perhaps some expendable part of my body, maybe like pubic hair or something...
Production date of the month of November 2001 with SMG
If your car isn't a part of that production you're clear
Second...
call me biased, but i think the 350z is good for the money...but if u can get an M3..holy ****, that's apples to oranges. i doubt anyone in this entire forum can deny that an M3 can outperform the 350 in every performance-wise aspect...
The main thing the 350 has against the M3 is the price / performance ratio..that one i can win to 350 hands down...
so, if u are on a budget shoot for the 350,
BUT I WOULD GIVE MY LEFT ******** TO HAVE AN M3...
ok maybe not, perhaps some expendable part of my body, maybe like pubic hair or something...
09-11-2002, 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by 350z_tako
I don't think BMW = sh@t but I would take Z.... M3 is pretty good car but Z has more potential room for upgrading and mods. M3 has a little bumpy ride and costs a lot to adjust it to what you want. Anyway, it's your preference. Drive both. To me, Z was more fun and cost effective
I don't think BMW = sh@t but I would take Z.... M3 is pretty good car but Z has more potential room for upgrading and mods. M3 has a little bumpy ride and costs a lot to adjust it to what you want. Anyway, it's your preference. Drive both. To me, Z was more fun and cost effective
350Z VQ motor is pretty much maxxed out from the factory.
Isn't this the same engine as Maxima and Altima just more beefed up and tweaked?
If its for the same price...
09-11-2002, 03:42 PM
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Originally posted by S2kRob
Tough decision. You're comparing a used car to a new car. For me, I'd get the new car.
But the M3 has an 8000rpm redline, a smooth inline 6, 330hp, availability of an SMG transmission, and seats 4 if that's important to you.
The 350Z is way cheaper, offers close performance, and has a better wheel and brake package from the factory for the track model.
Tough choice. I'd personally go with the Z because it's a 2 seater, and it's a better bang for the buck (esp. up here in Canada where a track is under $30k US).
Also, the 350Z aftermarket will be bigger than the M3's, even though the M3's market is plentiful. But you will see anything and everything you can possibly imagine for the 350Z. Just wait and watch.
But my ultimate garage would probably have a 350Z and an M3 in it. Both are awesome. You can't go wrong with either.
Tough decision. You're comparing a used car to a new car. For me, I'd get the new car.
But the M3 has an 8000rpm redline, a smooth inline 6, 330hp, availability of an SMG transmission, and seats 4 if that's important to you.
The 350Z is way cheaper, offers close performance, and has a better wheel and brake package from the factory for the track model.
Tough choice. I'd personally go with the Z because it's a 2 seater, and it's a better bang for the buck (esp. up here in Canada where a track is under $30k US).
Also, the 350Z aftermarket will be bigger than the M3's, even though the M3's market is plentiful. But you will see anything and everything you can possibly imagine for the 350Z. Just wait and watch.
But my ultimate garage would probably have a 350Z and an M3 in it. Both are awesome. You can't go wrong with either.
09-11-2002, 03:46 PM
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Re: are u kidding me...
Originally posted by bimmersamster
The only issues for the M3
Production date of the month of November 2001 with SMG
If your car isn't a part of that production you're clear
The only issues for the M3
Production date of the month of November 2001 with SMG
If your car isn't a part of that production you're clear
An ECU that reports that the engine (electronically limited to 8000) was held at 8800 RPM for 15 minutes? Give me a break. What are they using to run those ECU's? Windows 3.1???
Keep your M3, I'll take the Z any day of the week.
09-11-2002, 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by S2kPower
350Z VQ motor is pretty much maxxed out from the factory.
Isn't this the same engine as Maxima and Altima just more beefed up and tweaked?
350Z VQ motor is pretty much maxxed out from the factory.
Isn't this the same engine as Maxima and Altima just more beefed up and tweaked?
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