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02-06-2013, 06:41 PM
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I agree with most of this, except the 100 is too fast passing cars... Maybe I'm just used to it because I drive minimum 50 miles a day going to work and back going near those speeds. Yeah I know if I get pulled over I'm fu*ked, but I have eyes of a hawk when it comes to cops, my eyes saved my *** a few times this week alone.
What's that expression... "Speeding is going faster than what you can handle" Something along those lines, heard it in a movie once lol
Bottom line is, do what you can handle. This driver obviously couldn't handle going 100mph. Nothing to do with age, only driving skills. Yes higher age means more years driving, which means more experience which should make you a better driver. That is never the case, don't believe me? Come by my area, choose any street, pull out a chair and a case of beer and just chill there all day. You'll see minimum 5 accidents and all of them being older people who can't drive but choose to anyways.
Example of stupidity isn't based off of solely age, but based off of being stupid..
Experience doesn't come from age... Experience comes from EXPERIENCing things. I'm only 19, not sure how old you are, but can almost guarantee I've have more experiences and life learning lessons than you have. Not saying I know your life, that previous statement might be completely wrong. But based on average statistics, yeah I've experienced more.
And most people don't learn from experience. You really think this kid is going to get a slower car and slow down? No he's going to get the same or a better car, be scared for a week or two and go back to speeding again. How do I know this? Experience. People don't change, you're stupid at a young age, you'll be stupid at an older age.
So take this example, a 45 year old who rarely ever drove his entire life because it wasn't his thing and me a 19 year old and I drive anywhere from 50-100 miles a day. Just because he's older, according to you, he's a more experienced driver. Even tho at the age of 19 I would of drove more then the guy I used in my example? Please rationalize your reasoning for me.
Exactly ^
Yeah if I take my 40 year old self compared to myself now, of course I would be a better driver, because I would've been driving for that much longer. But you're previous point is You learn with age. That's wrong, you learn with experiences. I can experience something at the age of 15 that you wouldn't have the opportunity to experience till 25. Does that mean I'm smarter? No. It means I've experienced it first. Age is an irrelevant factor.
It is, I'm stealing that haha
My insurance is $200 a month for basic liability... I don't even need to know what you're insurance payment is because it isn't that bad. Lol
What's that expression... "Speeding is going faster than what you can handle" Something along those lines, heard it in a movie once lol
Bottom line is, do what you can handle. This driver obviously couldn't handle going 100mph. Nothing to do with age, only driving skills. Yes higher age means more years driving, which means more experience which should make you a better driver. That is never the case, don't believe me? Come by my area, choose any street, pull out a chair and a case of beer and just chill there all day. You'll see minimum 5 accidents and all of them being older people who can't drive but choose to anyways.
Example of stupidity isn't based off of solely age, but based off of being stupid..
Experience doesn't come from age... Experience comes from EXPERIENCing things. I'm only 19, not sure how old you are, but can almost guarantee I've have more experiences and life learning lessons than you have. Not saying I know your life, that previous statement might be completely wrong. But based on average statistics, yeah I've experienced more.
And most people don't learn from experience. You really think this kid is going to get a slower car and slow down? No he's going to get the same or a better car, be scared for a week or two and go back to speeding again. How do I know this? Experience. People don't change, you're stupid at a young age, you'll be stupid at an older age.
So take this example, a 45 year old who rarely ever drove his entire life because it wasn't his thing and me a 19 year old and I drive anywhere from 50-100 miles a day. Just because he's older, according to you, he's a more experienced driver. Even tho at the age of 19 I would of drove more then the guy I used in my example? Please rationalize your reasoning for me.
Exactly ^
Yeah if I take my 40 year old self compared to myself now, of course I would be a better driver, because I would've been driving for that much longer. But you're previous point is You learn with age. That's wrong, you learn with experiences. I can experience something at the age of 15 that you wouldn't have the opportunity to experience till 25. Does that mean I'm smarter? No. It means I've experienced it first. Age is an irrelevant factor.
It is, I'm stealing that haha
My insurance is $200 a month for basic liability... I don't even need to know what you're insurance payment is because it isn't that bad. Lol
Your mentality gives off a strong odor of immaturity.
02-06-2013, 07:24 PM
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In all honesty if this kid died the only people I would be sorry for are his parents because they lost a child that made a bad decision. I also feel sorry for the Z because it had a bad owner, and sorry for the tree. I won't feel sorry for the kid himself because nature has it's ways of taking care of people like him. The grim reaper must of been on his lunch break or something that day. That lucky bastard.
02-07-2013, 02:56 AM
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02-07-2013, 08:12 AM
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Age isn't a factor in ignorance. If someone is stupid at 19, he will be stupid at 50
This guy was just stupid, drove a car he didn't know how to handle and crashed
"This guy should never have been in A car period." Fixed
100mph isn't even high speeds, so idk why the article blames the speed. Driver is completely at fault
This guy was just stupid, drove a car he didn't know how to handle and crashed
"This guy should never have been in A car period." Fixed
100mph isn't even high speeds, so idk why the article blames the speed. Driver is completely at fault
100 MPH is a very high speed.
You haven't had that type of "experience" like I've had.
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02-07-2013, 08:37 AM
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You're too young to realize that with youth comes a higher degree of carelessness and a feeling of invulnerability. It's pointless to argue with you about it, because you don't understand, yet.
100 MPH is a very high speed.
I hope I'm not the one who gets called to your accident scene where you killed someone by trying to pass a vehicle at 100 mph.
You haven't had that type of "experience" like I've had.
100 MPH is a very high speed.
I hope I'm not the one who gets called to your accident scene where you killed someone by trying to pass a vehicle at 100 mph.
You haven't had that type of "experience" like I've had.
02-07-2013, 08:44 AM
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I don't think it's fast, science proves it kid. Sorry to learn ya something
Think if it in terms of baseball. Is a baseball traveling at 90mph fast? Yes! Now picture w 3000lbs baseball going 90 mph......
My bad for drifting even further off topic but yeah I hope the kid does cherish life. Unfortunately you can't fix stupid
Think if it in terms of baseball. Is a baseball traveling at 90mph fast? Yes! Now picture w 3000lbs baseball going 90 mph......
My bad for drifting even further off topic but yeah I hope the kid does cherish life. Unfortunately you can't fix stupid
Chirping in with Bruno:
Speed limit on highways in Michigan are 70. You do 70 on some roads and your risking being hit from behind if your not in a semi lane. My avg speed is 80. I go with traffic, pass on the left when I have to. People going by at 90 is normal.
Speed limit on highways in Michigan are 70. You do 70 on some roads and your risking being hit from behind if your not in a semi lane. My avg speed is 80. I go with traffic, pass on the left when I have to. People going by at 90 is normal.
j3 I can guarantee when you first started driving you were only going 50 mph on the freeway your first time and that felt too fast, now 50 doesn't feel to fast eh?
I'm not saying he doesn't drive that FAST. Or even that people in oklahoma don't drive that fast. He said that 80-90 isn't fast, in which on fact it is fast. Just because your not the only one going 80-90, doesn't make it any less "fast". That why I said just because everyone speed doesn't make it any less illegal
Bro you have a lot to learn, You remind me of myself at 19, im 23 now and you will slow down one day man, but for right now do you, but be careful. and dont try to defend yourself on this forum, your age shows when you comment and your gonna get raped. You contradict yourself when you try to make your points and thats because you make no sense.
Experience comes from EXPERIENCing things. I'm only 19, not sure how old you are, but can almost guarantee I've have more experiences and life learning lessons than you have
How did you gain these experiences? ^ , pretty sure you had to grow up to experience them.
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"But you're previous point is You learn with age. That's wrong, you learn with experiences. I can experience something at the age of 15 that you wouldn't have the opportunity to experience till 25. Does that mean I'm smarter? No. It means I've experienced it first"
so if you learned that at age 15, you would have learned from that experience and not done the same thing at 25, would you?
and you pay 200 a month for basic liability? wtf? and you think that is ok?
bro I pay 172 for 3 cars full coverage. that insurance payment is NOT ok. I hope you can pay for that Z if anything happens to it other than an accident.
Experience comes from EXPERIENCing things. I'm only 19, not sure how old you are, but can almost guarantee I've have more experiences and life learning lessons than you have
How did you gain these experiences? ^ , pretty sure you had to grow up to experience them.
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"But you're previous point is You learn with age. That's wrong, you learn with experiences. I can experience something at the age of 15 that you wouldn't have the opportunity to experience till 25. Does that mean I'm smarter? No. It means I've experienced it first"
so if you learned that at age 15, you would have learned from that experience and not done the same thing at 25, would you?
and you pay 200 a month for basic liability? wtf? and you think that is ok?
bro I pay 172 for 3 cars full coverage. that insurance payment is NOT ok. I hope you can pay for that Z if anything happens to it other than an accident. To your second bold, no I would not do the same at 25. But that's not my point.
My point is experience doesn't come from age. Just because you are older, does not mean you've experienced it all and you know more than everyone younger than you.
People laugh and say oh he's only XX years old, he does't know much.. That's flawed logic, automatically assuming something because of someones age.. Lmao cmon.
And yeah 200 for liability, I got pulled over for retarded things when I was 16. Not using a turn signal, supposedly following an ambulance (which they ran twice), talking on the phone with bluetooth... So I got my license suspended for 1 year and insurance companies don't want to deal with me because of it. Only reason I got this insurance to cover me was because I called them and described the citations. Apparently they were just like the majority of you guys on these forums. "Oh he's 18 and has points on his record. *Starts judging, blames his age."
Btw, I love the stereotypes this forum always uses lol.. It's racist against age; if you don't understand why, replace "young age" with "a black guy" and you'll understand.
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You're too young to realize that with youth comes a higher degree of carelessness and a feeling of invulnerability. It's pointless to argue with you about it, because you don't understand, yet.
100 MPH is a very high speed.
I hope I'm not the one who gets called to your accident scene where you killed someone by trying to pass a vehicle at 100 mph.
You haven't had that type of "experience" like I've had.
100 MPH is a very high speed.
I hope I'm not the one who gets called to your accident scene where you killed someone by trying to pass a vehicle at 100 mph.
You haven't had that type of "experience" like I've had.
I blacked out behind the wheel for a good 5 minutes, but still was able to walk away from the scene. I had a banged up knee for a few months, other guy didn't have a scratch on him. A passing driver saved my life by blocking traffic with his car.
Yeah, pretty sure I did experience something like that..
02-07-2013, 09:00 AM
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This was on a street? Speed limit was 45....
And no not according to me, according to the police. I still don't believe a pole could have done enough damage to the car that would've killed me
And no not according to me, according to the police. I still don't believe a pole could have done enough damage to the car that would've killed me
02-07-2013, 09:15 AM
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I've been t-boned, me going 40mph and the other driver going 50. My car slid a good 30 feet before the curb stopped it and still came about 2 inches away from hitting a pole which could have killed me, according to the police.
I blacked out behind the wheel for a good 5 minutes, but still was able to walk away from the scene. I had a banged up knee for a few months, other guy didn't have a scratch on him. A passing driver saved my life by blocking traffic with his car.
Yeah, pretty sure I did experience something like that..
I blacked out behind the wheel for a good 5 minutes, but still was able to walk away from the scene. I had a banged up knee for a few months, other guy didn't have a scratch on him. A passing driver saved my life by blocking traffic with his car.
Yeah, pretty sure I did experience something like that..
It's OK, kid. When you kill a wife and mother on her way home from work, don't worry about it. I'll be the one to tell her husband and children that she was killed, because some fool didn't think 100 was too fast to be driving on the freeway.
02-07-2013, 09:31 AM
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Lol I'm done here. I find this hilarious because you are calling me young and ignorant, yet you are the one who has a hard headed mentality of "I'm older so I'm better"
Obviously respect doesn't come with age. But don't worry man; you're better, more experienced, and smarter than me
Obviously respect doesn't come with age. But don't worry man; you're better, more experienced, and smarter than me
02-07-2013, 09:44 AM
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I got my Z at 19 and I'm 24 now. Although it's only been 5 years I consider myself lightyears ahead in regards to experience and responsibility from when I was 20.
Have you ever taken your car to the track? My experience taught me alot about my car, and you would reach limits that you could never experience on the street. I feel the track experience makes me a much better driver on the street.
By the way, as a fellow young Z owner, you're sounding pretty ignorant with your responses. Not trying to start with you, just looking out.
Have you ever taken your car to the track? My experience taught me alot about my car, and you would reach limits that you could never experience on the street. I feel the track experience makes me a much better driver on the street.
By the way, as a fellow young Z owner, you're sounding pretty ignorant with your responses. Not trying to start with you, just looking out.
02-07-2013, 10:53 AM
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Experience doesn't come from age... Experience comes from EXPERIENCing things. I'm only 19, not sure how old you are, but can almost guarantee I've have more experiences and life learning lessons than you have. Not saying I know your life, that previous statement might be completely wrong.
That might be the most laughable statement I have ever seen from a 19 year old! I have bad habits over twice as old as 19 years, lol.
That might be the most laughable statement I have ever seen from a 19 year old! I have bad habits over twice as old as 19 years, lol.
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The term you're looking for is "ageist" or "ageism." You can't be racist against something that isn't a race.
02-07-2013, 01:49 PM
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Lol I'm done here. I find this hilarious because you are calling me young and ignorant, yet you are the one who has a hard headed mentality of "I'm older so I'm better"
Obviously respect doesn't come with age. But don't worry man; you're better, more experienced, and smarter than me
Obviously respect doesn't come with age. But don't worry man; you're better, more experienced, and smarter than me
02-07-2013, 02:30 PM
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A baseball is also only 3 inches in diameter.....
Exactly my point, when you're forced to do 80 on a daily basis it's not fast anymore. j3 I can guarantee when you first started driving you were only going 50 mph on the freeway your first time and that felt too fast, now 50 doesn't feel to fast eh?
You're not getting the point.. "fast" or any term works on a societies stand point. If in you're society people only travel at 60mph yeah 80 is fast. But over here, everyone goes 80 so no, it's not deemed as fast where I'm from. And that doesn't only go for speed it's for everything. Something acceptable in my society might not be acceptable in yours and vice versa.
To your reply to the first bold statement. Yes you have to grow from your experiences, but my point is they can happen at any age. Sure at 30 you have the chance to experience more things because you've been around longer, but that doesn't mean you have. I know plenty of older people that lived their lives by the books and never really experienced a damn thing. But to everyones reasoning I should still listen and learn from them? No, doesn't work like that.
To your second bold, no I would not do the same at 25. But that's not my point.
My point is experience doesn't come from age. Just because you are older, does not mean you've experienced it all and you know more than everyone younger than you.
People laugh and say oh he's only XX years old, he does't know much.. That's flawed logic, automatically assuming something because of someones age.. Lmao cmon.
And yeah 200 for liability, I got pulled over for retarded things when I was 16. Not using a turn signal, supposedly following an ambulance (which they ran twice), talking on the phone with bluetooth... So I got my license suspended for 1 year and insurance companies don't want to deal with me because of it. Only reason I got this insurance to cover me was because I called them and described the citations. Apparently they were just like the majority of you guys on these forums. "Oh he's 18 and has points on his record. *Starts judging, blames his age."
Exactly my point. People on the slowest lanes do 65 minimum, trucks travel at 70mph. If you're following the speed limit you'll last maybe 10 miles before you start an accident
Exactly... I'm sorry but are you not capable of adapting? Lol After doing something for long periods of times it just becomes a routine. Don't worry, when you get older you'll learn the power to adapt with your surroundings
Oh no I understand that. I get that in my mind I'm superman, hey that's everyone tho. But that doesn't change the fact that just because I'm 19 means I'm automatically stupid. Like I said before, if you're an idiot, it's because you're an idiot, not because you're 19. This guy who crashed is an idiot, not because he's 19, but because he's an idiot.
Btw, I love the stereotypes this forum always uses lol.. It's racist against age; if you don't understand why, replace "young age" with "a black guy" and you'll understand.
Exactly my point, when you're forced to do 80 on a daily basis it's not fast anymore. j3 I can guarantee when you first started driving you were only going 50 mph on the freeway your first time and that felt too fast, now 50 doesn't feel to fast eh?
You're not getting the point.. "fast" or any term works on a societies stand point. If in you're society people only travel at 60mph yeah 80 is fast. But over here, everyone goes 80 so no, it's not deemed as fast where I'm from. And that doesn't only go for speed it's for everything. Something acceptable in my society might not be acceptable in yours and vice versa.
To your reply to the first bold statement. Yes you have to grow from your experiences, but my point is they can happen at any age. Sure at 30 you have the chance to experience more things because you've been around longer, but that doesn't mean you have. I know plenty of older people that lived their lives by the books and never really experienced a damn thing. But to everyones reasoning I should still listen and learn from them? No, doesn't work like that.
To your second bold, no I would not do the same at 25. But that's not my point.
My point is experience doesn't come from age. Just because you are older, does not mean you've experienced it all and you know more than everyone younger than you.
People laugh and say oh he's only XX years old, he does't know much.. That's flawed logic, automatically assuming something because of someones age.. Lmao cmon.
And yeah 200 for liability, I got pulled over for retarded things when I was 16. Not using a turn signal, supposedly following an ambulance (which they ran twice), talking on the phone with bluetooth... So I got my license suspended for 1 year and insurance companies don't want to deal with me because of it. Only reason I got this insurance to cover me was because I called them and described the citations. Apparently they were just like the majority of you guys on these forums. "Oh he's 18 and has points on his record. *Starts judging, blames his age."
Exactly my point. People on the slowest lanes do 65 minimum, trucks travel at 70mph. If you're following the speed limit you'll last maybe 10 miles before you start an accident
Exactly... I'm sorry but are you not capable of adapting? Lol After doing something for long periods of times it just becomes a routine. Don't worry, when you get older you'll learn the power to adapt with your surroundings
Oh no I understand that. I get that in my mind I'm superman, hey that's everyone tho. But that doesn't change the fact that just because I'm 19 means I'm automatically stupid. Like I said before, if you're an idiot, it's because you're an idiot, not because you're 19. This guy who crashed is an idiot, not because he's 19, but because he's an idiot.
Btw, I love the stereotypes this forum always uses lol.. It's racist against age; if you don't understand why, replace "young age" with "a black guy" and you'll understand.
I've highlighted in bold your ignorant comment. society does not determine what is fast, just because you drive 90 more than me, this doesn't mean your 90 is slower than my 90. 90 mph is 90 mph.
Age is a very good trait to determine intelligence, education, rationality, stubbornness, and ability to understand. you do not understand that just because you drive 90, doesn't make it any less fast than if I drove 90. If you actually believe that because you drive this fast as much as you say, than you my friend are indeed what everyone else says you are. a mere 19 year-old.
Respect in fact does not one with age. It come from the understanding of what others are saying/doing and using it as a lesson to add to your life or understand why this person says/thinks/acts they way it does.
I can respect that in California drivers might drive at an average rate faster than Oklahoma, but that fact that more people drive this way is possibly a reaction to lack of police to manage so many cars on crowded streets. What I can't respect is a 19 year old telling a bunch of 20+year olds we don't know what fast really is, or that he's experienced more than us. The lack of respect is on your end due to the level of unwillingness to see things from another perspective.
From when I was 19 to now 24, I feel I am thousands of years from where I was. Information, knowledge, and anything else that you get with age. Experience does come with age. What doesn't come with age is the experiences you have. You can not determine what you will go through but you hope whatever it is that you learn from it, whether it be good or bad.
An then I realizes I was talking to a 19 year old with a Z who pays $200 for liability insurance........ You can blame the cops all you want but at the end of some day in the future you will realize that it's not poor pitiful you. Not everyone is out to get you. You bring these negative "experiences" on your self.
Hell maybe you won't learn, maybe it will always be poor pitiful you. I'm leaning more towards this the more I type.
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Wait a second, I missed the part about the insurance. 200 for liability?! Your getting raped dude lol. When I was looking into how much a Z for insurance would cost when I was at 19 it wasn't 200. I suggest you switch to Geico and save a bunch of money on your car insurance. It's so easy a caveman can do it. Whoever you have as your car insurance you are not in good hands.