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Old 12-15-2013, 08:03 AM
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http://wallstcheatsheet.com/stocks/t...-road.html/10/

Nissan rules the list, the 350z is number 1.

"Topping the list of deadliest cars on the road is yet another Nissan: the two-door 350Z from model year 2005 to 2008. A shocking 143 deaths per million registrations were recorded for the Nissan 350Z drivers during the study period, with 90 deaths per million registrations occurring in single-vehicle crashes."

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I think that says more about the average of Z owner rather than car...IIRC the 350's have 5/5 crash test ratings. Not to mention majority were single car crashes.
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Wow, I've been moving up the list with my cars...first a Tiburon, then a Cobalt SS and now a 350z. This doesn't look promising for me.
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Driver mod.
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Originally Posted by kacz07
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Old 12-15-2013, 08:13 AM
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Yeaaah, IDK if that really means the /car/ is dangerous. It's just a good looking fast car and now that's it's getting cheaper more and more immature drivers are getting their hands on them.
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I have a 2003 so I'm safe?

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Sure glad I have an '03. The '03 and '04 didn't make the list.
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WTF no Porsche? They took Paul Walker, some guy with Paul Walker, and Ryan Dunn...F you Porsche!
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Seeing as how the study only covered cars made between 2005 and 2008, it's not surprising that the earlier 350Zs weren't mentioned.
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You can't blame it on the type of driver, car cost or that it is a sports car. There is only one other sports car on the list and a large amount of pickups, kids don't drive Titans at all, let alone fast.
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I would take that with a grain of salt. Our cars are a lot safer then much else out there.
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Originally Posted by Sean
You can't blame it on the type of driver, car cost or that it is a sports car. There is only one other sports car on the list and a large amount of pickups, kids don't drive Titans at all, let alone fast.
I think you certainly can. The fact the majority of deaths were single car crashes says a lot right there. That means the cars were being pushed past their limits and lost control, unless you want to argue that they were all due to black ice and animals...

To reiterate, the car has 5/5 crash test ratings. That means in front, rear, and side collisions its among the safest you can get...rollovers, trees, cliffs are a different story and I'm willing to bet those were involved with the majority of deaths on that list pertaining to the z.
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So... Let me get this right. The 350z is the "deadliest" car to be involved in a crash. The article states that 143:1,000,000 cars, the 350z has a fatality. Then it goes on to say that 90:143 of those fatalities are single car instances. I would have to assume that a good majority of the 90:143 "accidents" are from the car hitting stationary objects, and are resulting from "driver error" (I can call it that, right? I mean they call airplane accidents caused by the pilot "pilot error").

If the above is correct that means that the fatal accident to registered vehicles is 53:1,000,000 now. Yet the ranks the Chevy Malibu and Kia Spectra (both had higher death rates in accidents with multiple cars with 63:99 and 63:102, respectively), lower than the 350z.

Me thinks the problem isn't with the car, and its safety features, as much as operator error.

If I am taking the ratios of "multi-car accidents from the article" here are the percentages.
350z - 37.06%
Malibu - 63.63%
Spectra - 61.76%

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Originally Posted by Sean
You can't blame it on the type of driver, car cost or that it is a sports car. There is only one other sports car on the list and a large amount of pickups, kids don't drive Titans at all, let alone fast.
You're right. People aren't driving this trucks in the same manner as someone would drive a sports car. That being said, how many of these single-car accidents are happening in the winter time--with snow and ice covered roads? I don't know about where you all live, but I don't drive my Z in the snow, and the people that are driving the trucks and SUVs are the one that typically drive like jackasses because they think their 4WD will save them from everything.
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I don't even like driving my z in medium or heavy rain and I never even attempt to drive it in snow or freezing temperatures.
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I think it says more about the people driving the vehicle rather than the car itself. Studies like these are poorly done and don't actually dictate correlation. Consider the relationship between sunburn and ice-cream consumption. When ice-cream consumption increases so do sunburn incidences. Does this mean eating ice cream causes sunburn? No, it means that during the summer and hotter months, you are more likely to enjoy eating ice cream and being in the direct sun. In the case of this article, the correlation between 350z accidents per drivers on the road doesn't account for the types of drivers who are much more likely to be driving more recklessly. It is these people who are more likely to be involved in the accident, not the car itself. Grandmas and soccer moms won't tend to drive the car and therefore make other cars, like mini vans and such, more "safe" in the eyes of this article. Sorry guys but I am very quick to call bull lol.
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With such a high percentage of the crashes being single-car, what evidence do they offer that the cars themselves caused the single car crashes?
Old 12-15-2013, 02:33 PM
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[QUOTE=milto0n;10287129]I think it says more about the people driving the vehicle rather than the car itself.

Unskilled drivers driving beyond their limits or driving with a lead filled right foot! I'd bet that most of these fatalities are in the under 25 age group.
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i would love to see the age of these driver deaths too. i would be willing to be the majority under 30


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