do i need an autolock/club?
Is there any point in having these with the Z? From what I hear you cant hotwire it anyways because of the whole programmed key ordeal.
Would it just be a waste to put these on? Im thinking of putting a club on it just as a visual "back off" type deal.
So.....?
Would it just be a waste to put these on? Im thinking of putting a club on it just as a visual "back off" type deal.
So.....?
I may be wrong, but I thought that when the key transponder is not within a certain proximity of the ignition switch in the steering column it locks out the ignition switch in the steering column. It doesn't lock out the starter under the hood.
So, you could pry open the dash and hot wire it from there instead of the steering column?
At least that is how the Honda one works.
The instruction manual that came with my Z was very vague on the particulars of the security system, and my dealer didn't know either.
Actually, if anyone else knows, I'd be interested in learning more too ^_^
So, you could pry open the dash and hot wire it from there instead of the steering column?
At least that is how the Honda one works.
The instruction manual that came with my Z was very vague on the particulars of the security system, and my dealer didn't know either.
Actually, if anyone else knows, I'd be interested in learning more too ^_^
If getting one (either an autolock or Club) offers you peace-of-mind or helps you sleep at night, why not? Might actually serve as a deterrant from those that might smash your window in only to find out that a chip is needed to activate the ignition. A perpetrator will probably just try the next Z that doesn't have all the hassle of additional anti-theft devices.
As always, if a thief really wants your vehicle, he'll get it.
As always, if a thief really wants your vehicle, he'll get it.
yeah i bought an autolock but may end up returning it and just getting a club. so its more visible and whatnot to serve as that deterrant. that ugly *** cover is well, ugly. so yeah club it is for me.
the mall in our area is quite large, boasting a high car theft rate or so i hear. from experience one of my friends cousins we met at the mall just had his car stolen.
id be frigign torn if anything happened to my baby. im sure you all can relate.
Still curious however, as to if the information Janus stated is correct. Can the ignition still be bypassed if they key is not in range?
the mall in our area is quite large, boasting a high car theft rate or so i hear. from experience one of my friends cousins we met at the mall just had his car stolen.
id be frigign torn if anything happened to my baby. im sure you all can relate.
Still curious however, as to if the information Janus stated is correct. Can the ignition still be bypassed if they key is not in range?
I saw a documentary awhile ago called Stolen Every 60 Seconds on auto theft. The Club is REAL easy to break/bypass. They showed a person able to break it by using a huge pipe and putting it over one of the "prongs" and prying using his legs. Also people can saw thru the steering wheel.
They spoke to an former (reformed) auto theft ring leader who himself uses an Autolock. They mentioned unlike the steering wheel, the brake column is one of the strongest parts of the car so it's harder to bypass. The guy said that if the car had an Club, or an alarm and Club, he could still steal the car. If it had a Club, alarm, and autolock, he'd probably move on because that's 3 systems he had to bypass and he might not be able to.
I got an Autolock for my Z and still leave the Club on my Max (which I might sell soon anyhow).
They spoke to an former (reformed) auto theft ring leader who himself uses an Autolock. They mentioned unlike the steering wheel, the brake column is one of the strongest parts of the car so it's harder to bypass. The guy said that if the car had an Club, or an alarm and Club, he could still steal the car. If it had a Club, alarm, and autolock, he'd probably move on because that's 3 systems he had to bypass and he might not be able to.
I got an Autolock for my Z and still leave the Club on my Max (which I might sell soon anyhow).
I run the Club, the Autolock, and LoJack as aftermarket systems. The Autolock is a bit inconvenient, but serves its purpose. Just be sure to remove it before driving your car... I made that mistake twice, luckily without really bad results...
I personnaly use the T-Rex Titanium lock. It is an Autolock type thing, in the sense that it's purpose is to imobalize a pedal. I find mine to be very convenient as I can just reach over into the luggae area and retrieve it and it takes seriously 2 seconds to apply. I put mine on the clutch pedal so they really cant start the car. It's better than the club for the aforementioned reasons especially the testimonial from the reformed auto thieve. A pedal lock forces a would-be thief to have the door open and be sawing away. The T-Rex Titanium lock is even liquid nitrogen proof. Of course if a thief wants your car they can always flatbed it, but f-them, even if they take it, they'll have to curse there way through my lock. It has given me intense peace of mind as I work in a mall and am away from my car for 8 hours at a time. Good stuff.
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I did some searching on the forums (I know imagine that! world coming to end!) and I found some old posts about the stock security system and the transponder in the key.
It turns out that if the key transponder isn't within a certain proximity of the steering column's ignition, that the ECU locks out the starter.
Which is better than just the ignition not turning.
So, I guess in order to steal your car, a theif has to tow it, or car jack it...
BTW, the cub is a joke. My friends and I joke about the club having a secondary use.
Did you know, that in addition to being a club you can also lock your car with it?
My friend had his car stolen and when it was recovered it still had the club on it!
However the theif must of had a sense of humor because the steering wheel was hacksawed and they put the club back on before they left.
It turns out that if the key transponder isn't within a certain proximity of the steering column's ignition, that the ECU locks out the starter.
Which is better than just the ignition not turning.
So, I guess in order to steal your car, a theif has to tow it, or car jack it...
BTW, the cub is a joke. My friends and I joke about the club having a secondary use.
Did you know, that in addition to being a club you can also lock your car with it?
My friend had his car stolen and when it was recovered it still had the club on it!
However the theif must of had a sense of humor because the steering wheel was hacksawed and they put the club back on before they left.
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A guy I know had his car in the shop so his roommate let him borrow his car while he (roommate) was out of town. Only problem was, it had a club on it, and the key was nowhere to be found. So he managed to drive it around town with the ability to go straight or turn right.
So no, I'd say the club is not the most effective theft-deterrent.
A guy I know had his car in the shop so his roommate let him borrow his car while he (roommate) was out of town. Only problem was, it had a club on it, and the key was nowhere to be found. So he managed to drive it around town with the ability to go straight or turn right.
So no, I'd say the club is not the most effective theft-deterrent.



