It's been 15 years since I was in those parts, where is the track?

 

I've driven a couple BMWs and they drive great and the fit and finish is insane. But meh. I'd own a Infiniti or Lexus first any day if I was in the market for that kind of car just cause they are a million times easier to work on and cheaper



But back to the point I'd still take a new Vett. I doubt I'll hear any noises over long tubes lol

 

Chatcher is what you would call a high roller... If you are a high roller BMW is good to you, and you are good for BMW...

 

http://www.pittrace.com/

We use the kart, bike and cars there its a great facility

 

Nah I'm just OLD (cheap ins) and know how to fix s@!t.

 

Yep that's Pitt. Subaru everywhere!

 

Bmw build quality is great, both initial and long term. I'm basing that on e30,e36 & e46. Those are the few I've seen which can be considered "old". I almost went with an e46 over my Z a few years ago. I agree the fit, finish and overall quality is great. The cars are a bit over-engineered for my taste. They do what other great cars do with out going all "German" on the design.
Second note, a good friend is/was a master mechanic with BMW for 25-30 years. To quote him, "...the parts are throwaway and the electric issues will make you insane."

The Viper is killer track car but, pop the hood and I can show you details I wouldn't let go(gen5). When you pay that much money, you have a reasonable higher level of expectations. The welding and fitment of components in visible locations are crude. I could give you a better weld with an 80amp harbor freight MIG. That is sad. I realize those parts are most likely outsourced but, there is still something called QA/QC. That was 3 of 3 Vipers I checked for the same issues.

The C7 vette: several hundred miles and 3 days, I did not find one thing I didn't like. $60k for that machine and you really get a lot! I'd like to see how the car fairs over the next ten years. The vette is proven mechanically, so it really comes down to component quality and construction.

Every car has a compromise somewhere, in some way. The reality is; if it's a moving part, it's a matter of when it fails, not IF. They are all great cars. Two million dollars for a car and it will still have issues, assuming you drive it enough to get to that point.

 

Thanks for all your opinions i'm actually leaning towards the 2016 Camaro 2SS but time will tell i think it's a great car lot's of good reviews even on the interior. Would be nice to have a back seat again to.

I just don't know as of yet but i will test drive them i don't care of brand i like a lot of different cars for different reasons at the end of the day if a car makes me feel good i know i made the right choice.

I will miss the Z and i have intentions on getting another one in the future just waiting to see the next generation

 

You might be waiting longer than you think:

https://my350z.com/forum/2009-370z/6...the-z35-1.html

 

any hatchback will rattle and squeak after a while



c4 and c5 are meh at best

 

Update: So i ordered a 2016 Camaro 2SS 6 speed manual i went summit white with 20 inch black rims black bowties illuminated sill plates magnetic ride control dual mode exhaust and every bell and whistle that comes with the car apple car play leather ect

455hp 455tq i'm excited to say the least but i had to give up the Z i got a fair trade in and won 1250 on a connect to win with chevy just thought everyone would like to know what i did thanks again.

Happy New year everyone and drive safe

turnstein

 

congrats....get the mild 2 wild switch. what it does is open the butterfly in the exhaust, gives it a little more aggressive growl, if the camaro is like my vette the valve is shut unless over 3500 rpm, with this you can have it open all the time

 

Sweet new ride. Congratulations

 

The Mero makes more power then the Vett!


Pictures


We need pictures

 

but not mine.....

 

With the mods it will

 

When the C7 is set in sport mode or track mode, the exhaust is open from idle. It's a wonderful sound sitting at the traffic light.

I wouldn't be surprised if they offered the same option on the newest of the latest and greatest Camaros.

 

...and that was a plain ole Z51.

 

Congrats

 

Off topic, but how high is the ceiling in your garage? What brand is that 4 post lift? I've thought of getting one, but the ceilings in both my garages is around 10'. Is the 4 post bad to work under? 2 post lifts scare me, and they're not good for storage