Invidia Gemini Exhaust Installation
#21
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Sorry you're not satisfied with the new sound. The invidia is well made, but it is fairly tame. Certainly nowhere close to straight pipes in volume.
If you don't care about rasp, then you can get a set of regular non resonated test pipes. Resonated test pipes will be a little quieter and slightly less raspy. ART pipes seem to eliminate rasp the most.
I'm not sure if you want to go this route, but when I switched my invidia that was previously on my Z over to my G, it is about 6 inches shorter, so I drove it to my local muffler shop to have some extensions made but it was disconnected right before the rear muffler section. It was MUCH louder during that short drive. You could always delete the invidia muffler section and you might get the sound you want. If you want to test it, remove the rear section and take it for a short drive.
If you don't care about rasp, then you can get a set of regular non resonated test pipes. Resonated test pipes will be a little quieter and slightly less raspy. ART pipes seem to eliminate rasp the most.
I'm not sure if you want to go this route, but when I switched my invidia that was previously on my Z over to my G, it is about 6 inches shorter, so I drove it to my local muffler shop to have some extensions made but it was disconnected right before the rear muffler section. It was MUCH louder during that short drive. You could always delete the invidia muffler section and you might get the sound you want. If you want to test it, remove the rear section and take it for a short drive.
#22
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Sorry you're not satisfied with the new sound. The invidia is well made, but it is fairly tame. Certainly nowhere close to straight pipes in volume.
If you don't care about rasp, then you can get a set of regular non resonated test pipes. Resonated test pipes will be a little quieter and slightly less raspy. ART pipes seem to eliminate rasp the most.
I'm not sure if you want to go this route, but when I switched my invidia that was previously on my Z over to my G, it is about 6 inches shorter, so I drove it to my local muffler shop to have some extensions made but it was disconnected right before the rear muffler section. It was MUCH louder during that short drive. You could always delete the invidia muffler section and you might get the sound you want. If you want to test it, remove the rear section and take it for a short drive.
If you don't care about rasp, then you can get a set of regular non resonated test pipes. Resonated test pipes will be a little quieter and slightly less raspy. ART pipes seem to eliminate rasp the most.
I'm not sure if you want to go this route, but when I switched my invidia that was previously on my Z over to my G, it is about 6 inches shorter, so I drove it to my local muffler shop to have some extensions made but it was disconnected right before the rear muffler section. It was MUCH louder during that short drive. You could always delete the invidia muffler section and you might get the sound you want. If you want to test it, remove the rear section and take it for a short drive.
#24
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I think I will inevitably need them, I believe I simply underestimated how loud a straight piped Z is compared to stock, and I've gotten used to it.Just to make sure I'm looking at the correct thing, this is what I would be needing? vvv
https://www.importtuned.com/7436-mot...z_03_06_vq35de
https://www.importtuned.com/7436-mot...z_03_06_vq35de
#28
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Just to get an idea, how long did it take you to install the ART pipes? I assume it's less time than the entire exhaust itself was... hopefully.
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It all depends on how badly the bolts are seized. I used this write-up: https://my350z.com/forum/intake-exha...ation-diy.html
As mentioned before, mine was very easy, but I soaked everything in PB blaster overnight and zero rust.
To answer your other question about the rear muffler delete, yeah - you would essentially remove that section and just get some pipes fabbed up to run straight out where the tips go. It's a little ricey, but it's your Z, so do what you like.
As mentioned before, mine was very easy, but I soaked everything in PB blaster overnight and zero rust.
To answer your other question about the rear muffler delete, yeah - you would essentially remove that section and just get some pipes fabbed up to run straight out where the tips go. It's a little ricey, but it's your Z, so do what you like.
Last edited by Heel Til I Die; 07-09-2020 at 05:57 AM.
#31
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I second a good pre-soaking and make sure you have a good set of half inch extensions, wobbles, and U-joints to help get in there, use 6 point not 12 point to help avoid rounding, etc...
#32
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Okay gotcha, definitely going to soak it then! And I'll keep those tips in mind, I actually just pulled the trigger on the art pipes, they're in stock so they should ship right away. Very excited
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What made you hop on with the invidia gemini vs something else?
#34
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I have mine paired with some cheapo reasonated test pipes from Topspeed motorsports. The Gemini is a tame exhaust but it keeps true to the OEM tone, just a bit more deeper (thats why I like it i guess). I like how mine is set up with the reasonated test pipes. I think since you are running stock cats right now, pairing them with ART pipes will absolutely change the tone of the system.
What made you hop on with the invidia gemini vs something else?
What made you hop on with the invidia gemini vs something else?
I guess videos can be deceiving, especially when directly behind the exhaust but we'll see if I can make it sound how I want.
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Well, the original reason I wanted an exhaust was because eventually I'm planning on getting a popcorn/crackle tune. I was debating between a few, mainly invdia's N1 and Gemini, and although I wanted something audible that I can rev and hear some deep rumble/feedback from, I still wanted to be able to cruise at reasonable levels. This is a pretty specific request but it's what I was going for. From the videos I envisioned a little more roar/rumble from the exhaust and maybe even a few crackles with the exhaust itself because I thought I had seen videos with just the exhaust that gave a crisp rumble but there is pretty much zero rumble with it currently. I did hear someone saying that the exhaust does change tone a little after driving with it for a little while so maybe I'll be impressed but as of now I definitely need some extra sound which hopefully I'll get with the dnyo art pipes.
I guess videos can be deceiving, especially when directly behind the exhaust but we'll see if I can make it sound how I want.
I guess videos can be deceiving, especially when directly behind the exhaust but we'll see if I can make it sound how I want.
#36
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So you wouldn't recommend doing a crackle tune with this exhaust? Even with art pipes?
#38
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Internet videos are tough to gauge the sound. It's inevitable that if you want a louder exhaust sound, you're going to likely going to get more drone, but I think Motordyne nailed with with their design. Little to no drone at cruising highway speeds. I made this video last weekend to show some "real world" driving and the sound of the Motordyne TDX2. I probably shouldn't be posting this since you just got the Invidia, but maybe it will help others. Hopefully, you won't get buyer's remorse!
#39
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Internet videos are tough to gauge the sound. It's inevitable that if you want a louder exhaust sound, you're going to likely going to get more drone, but I think Motordyne nailed with with their design. Little to no drone at cruising highway speeds. I made this video last weekend to show some "real world" driving and the sound of the Motordyne TDX2. I probably shouldn't be posting this since you just got the Invidia, but maybe it will help others. Hopefully, you won't get buyer's remorse!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ba6HVdX_5A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ba6HVdX_5A
#40
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Butt wait Trav, if he gets that fashionable Rice Krispies tune (you know, snap, crackle, pop!), the pipes will carbon coat faster with runoff fuel! Win win!!
Imagine how much faster they’d coat with another faux performance tune. Flame map that suckuh!! 🙃
Imagine how much faster they’d coat with another faux performance tune. Flame map that suckuh!! 🙃