The Future Z and Skyline...
03-23-2004, 08:54 AM
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The Future Z and Skyline...
I was recently at my dealer (Sloane Nissan in Devon PA) and I was talking cars to some of the sales and service guys. They are claiming that a Nissan spokes person has assured them that there WILL be an All wheel drive Z and a 4.0 twin turbo Z. Also the 2007 Nissan Skyline AWD GT-R (G35 Coupe) will be listed between $70,000 and $90,000! I realize that most dealers have no idea what they are talking about but can anyone confirm any of these statements? I find it very hard to believe Nissan would make an all wheel drive Z to compete against the upcoming Skyline AWD GT-R? Also they said that the next generation of Z cars will look more like the G35 Coupe. Interesting stuff, now lets see how much is true…
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03-23-2004, 03:01 PM
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I've been the the car business for a couple years. I work @ Toyota of Naperville. I can confirm that no dealer in the world knows whats going on the with future production for 2007s.
For example here is all I know about the future of Toyota.
1)Most Toyotas will evnetually have a hybird options.
2) 5.6L DOHC truck engine in devlopement, made in the new plant located in Texas.
3) By 2006 Nissan and Ford will have Toyota brand Engines in their hybird cars.
That is EVERYTHING i know for the future. I can tell you, since I am the product knowledge guy of my dealership, I know more than 99% of Americans about the future of Toyota or Toyota prodcts today, and quiet obviouslt thats only a few stats.
P.S> Their is no Supra in development. but if they were it would be a 4.3L DOHC engine from the Lexus sc430.
I am ust trying to demonstraight that even the "best" car sales people know little or nothing about the future of their manufactorers.
Note: Most manufactorers are trying to get away from Turbo or SC because of how difficult it is to warranty those cars. (v6 Eclipse vs. 2.0L turbo) At the same time it's easier to supexample er charge an engine than to redesign one. (example: Ford Cobra is an example of cheaper to SC)
So, in summary, cars sales people don't know **** about cars.
Omer
For example here is all I know about the future of Toyota.
1)Most Toyotas will evnetually have a hybird options.
2) 5.6L DOHC truck engine in devlopement, made in the new plant located in Texas.
3) By 2006 Nissan and Ford will have Toyota brand Engines in their hybird cars.
That is EVERYTHING i know for the future. I can tell you, since I am the product knowledge guy of my dealership, I know more than 99% of Americans about the future of Toyota or Toyota prodcts today, and quiet obviouslt thats only a few stats.
P.S> Their is no Supra in development. but if they were it would be a 4.3L DOHC engine from the Lexus sc430.
I am ust trying to demonstraight that even the "best" car sales people know little or nothing about the future of their manufactorers.
Note: Most manufactorers are trying to get away from Turbo or SC because of how difficult it is to warranty those cars. (v6 Eclipse vs. 2.0L turbo) At the same time it's easier to supexample er charge an engine than to redesign one. (example: Ford Cobra is an example of cheaper to SC)
So, in summary, cars sales people don't know **** about cars.
Omer
03-23-2004, 04:47 PM
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They are claiming that a Nissan spokes person has assured them that there WILL be an All wheel drive Z and a 4.0 twin turbo Z. Also the 2007 Nissan Skyline AWD GT-R (G35 Coupe) will be listed between $70,000 and $90,000!
03-23-2004, 11:45 PM
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I find it hard to believe that anyone at a dealership knows anything more than the informed enthusiast when it comes to the future of the models it sells. If dealership sales people know so much, why is it that I have yet to talk to one about a car they currently sell without being able to catch them completely manufacturing at least 1 fact or figure out of ignorance.
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They say that each 2007 model will come with the optional top model on the passenger seat - but only for a limited time - and warranty on the top models will expire after two weeks. Top models are not refundable! The car will not come with the recliner seat although it will feature top model. And yes all top models will come in standard 6'' high heals.
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I don't think that a GT-R version of the G35 would be released that late (2007), unless it was released to Japan and/or other countries a year or two before that. I just don't think it would make financial sense to release a halo model version of a chassis half-way through it's life. Nissan would have to invest in tooling for some new bodywork, engine, and suspension pieces - not to mention the expense of federal certifications. Usually, these models come out a year or two after the cars they're based on (M3, S4, etc.) because of the additional engineering involved, but the longer the delay, the fewer copies that can be sold and the less opportunity there is to recoup the development costs.
03-25-2004, 09:44 PM
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I'm always skeptical of anything a salesperson says, but an AWD Z would make a lot of sense for enthusiasts who live in the snow belt. Nissan already has an AWD G35 sedan that uses the same engine, so it's not like they would have to design a new powertrain from scratch.
The AWD G35 sells for around $32K MSRP. If they bring in an AWD 350Z for under $35K, I think it would be a home run. It would definitely tip the scales toward the Z in my own debate over whether to get a Z, S2000, or RX-8.
The AWD G35 sells for around $32K MSRP. If they bring in an AWD 350Z for under $35K, I think it would be a home run. It would definitely tip the scales toward the Z in my own debate over whether to get a Z, S2000, or RX-8.
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Originally posted by BDM
I don't think that a GT-R version of the G35 would be released that late (2007), unless it was released to Japan and/or other countries a year or two before that. I just don't think it would make financial sense to release a halo model version of a chassis half-way through it's life. Nissan would have to invest in tooling for some new bodywork, engine, and suspension pieces - not to mention the expense of federal certifications. Usually, these models come out a year or two after the cars they're based on (M3, S4, etc.) because of the additional engineering involved, but the longer the delay, the fewer copies that can be sold and the less opportunity there is to recoup the development costs.
I don't think that a GT-R version of the G35 would be released that late (2007), unless it was released to Japan and/or other countries a year or two before that. I just don't think it would make financial sense to release a halo model version of a chassis half-way through it's life. Nissan would have to invest in tooling for some new bodywork, engine, and suspension pieces - not to mention the expense of federal certifications. Usually, these models come out a year or two after the cars they're based on (M3, S4, etc.) because of the additional engineering involved, but the longer the delay, the fewer copies that can be sold and the less opportunity there is to recoup the development costs.