Just got my car!! They drilled holes in the bumper! What should I do?
10-08-2002, 05:00 AM
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Originally posted by RobJames
Your post woke me up. I just called me salesman to make sure no one drilled holes in my bumper. He assured me that he was looking at it on the showroom floor, and it is free of holes. He agreed to shepherd it through shipment tomorrow or Wednesday without letting anyone drill holes. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I think I got a good dealer.
Your post woke me up. I just called me salesman to make sure no one drilled holes in my bumper. He assured me that he was looking at it on the showroom floor, and it is free of holes. He agreed to shepherd it through shipment tomorrow or Wednesday without letting anyone drill holes. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I think I got a good dealer.
PS. Please post pics of that Z once you get it.
10-08-2002, 05:41 AM
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Yeah, he said that most people have ordered without holes, you just never know if some car prep is going to get hole happy with the drill. I think I'm okay. They have the $ now, so you should be able to get your deposit. Thanks again. I'm going to take a hundred pics to post when I get it.
10-08-2002, 05:41 AM
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Re: Just got my car!! They drilled holes in the bumper! What should I do?
Originally posted by gmoneyr1
I was wondering if you guys could give me some ideas of what I should do about this issue:
I'd told the dealership several times not to drill holes in my bumper for the front license plate bracket..... They did it anyway and now I'm pissed. I almost walked away from the deal but decided against it. Now I think I should push to get a new bumper installed. I don't think they'll like that idea but screw them! For $36k I think I should get a nice new looking bumper. What do you think?
I was wondering if you guys could give me some ideas of what I should do about this issue:
I'd told the dealership several times not to drill holes in my bumper for the front license plate bracket..... They did it anyway and now I'm pissed. I almost walked away from the deal but decided against it. Now I think I should push to get a new bumper installed. I don't think they'll like that idea but screw them! For $36k I think I should get a nice new looking bumper. What do you think?
10-08-2002, 06:09 AM
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yeah, I had to bail after about 30 minutes or so...Had a sick little girl at home and mom was getting weary....
Here was the look I got when I said I was going out for a little bit..
Catch up with you next time for sure!
Here was the look I got when I said I was going out for a little bit..
Catch up with you next time for sure!
10-08-2002, 06:14 AM
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Rocket,
Have you noticed any power increase with the K&N? Have you read any claims re power increase. What about exhaust note difference. How would you describe it?
Have you noticed any power increase with the K&N? Have you read any claims re power increase. What about exhaust note difference. How would you describe it?
10-08-2002, 10:30 AM
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Cleveland must be worse than Columbus. I see plenty of sports car around here that have no front plate. I am glad my dealer had no problem leaving off the front plate for me. I am not worried about not having one. If other states require only the rear than why do any states require it? Photo tickets? No tag, no ticket.
10-08-2002, 10:34 AM
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gmoneyr1 i can't agree any more with you!!! The Krispy Kream Doughnuts that just opened here in San Antonio has keeped cops in a LOOOOONG Line. Ever since Oct. 1st when it opened. well even at 12o-clock at night the line is still about 2-3 hours long..... LOL which is pretty lame. But hey my mom waited....lol (that how i know it was 3hrs long.... The first few days it messed up traffic comming home from UTSA... Well off the doughnut subject.....Cops always mess with me about having no front license plate. I guess its cause Im young and I go crusing alot. Well ....I might try that custom LP that was posted using the tow hook mount.
10-08-2002, 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by 350zSATX
gmoneyr1 i can't agree any more with you!!! The Krispy Kream Doughnuts that just opened here in San Antonio has keeped cops in a LOOOOONG Line
gmoneyr1 i can't agree any more with you!!! The Krispy Kream Doughnuts that just opened here in San Antonio has keeped cops in a LOOOOONG Line
Sorry to hear you get pulled over alot for that. I guess the more you drive the more they'll see ya.. I like the long drives in the country much better than the city (bumper to bumper) drives. Although, driving in the city tends to get ya more attention. I guess that could be a good thing
10-08-2002, 10:57 AM
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New bumpers are available from Nissan for $250, unpainted. Throw in the cost of prep, paint, and install, and it's gotta be less than $500. I'd try to get the dealer to order and finish a new one for you, or just install the bracket and get another one ready. that way, you could always just switch to the non-bracketed one when you wanted to (if you've got that kind of patience and wanted to do that).
Sounds lame, but I've already taken huge rock chips and scratches on my original, and I'll be ordering a backup soon, so I can keep re-working bumpers as they get trashed. I've got a hook-up with a body repair shop, and they've committed to painting for free if I buy the paint, so it's worth the effort for me.
Guess I kind of got off-topic, huh? Try to get the dealer to replace it.
Sounds lame, but I've already taken huge rock chips and scratches on my original, and I'll be ordering a backup soon, so I can keep re-working bumpers as they get trashed. I've got a hook-up with a body repair shop, and they've committed to painting for free if I buy the paint, so it's worth the effort for me.
Guess I kind of got off-topic, huh? Try to get the dealer to replace it.
10-08-2002, 11:13 AM
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Originally posted by Z33Fan
Guess I kind of got off-topic, huh? Try to get the dealer to replace it.
Guess I kind of got off-topic, huh? Try to get the dealer to replace it.
Word travels fast when you're unhappy and driving the most popular car on the planet. I'm sure they'll replace the bumper.... They said they would. The bottom line is they should have asked me before drilling the holes. I would have signed whatever leagal document they could come up with to release them of liablilty. After all, it's me who would get the ticket.....
10-08-2002, 12:39 PM
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Very glad to hear you got resolution on this, Glenn. Your car is too beautiful too have two big holes on the front, not to mention those half-crescent scrapes. Catch at the next meet, bro. Maybe I'll try those mini-burgers then.... 
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10-08-2002, 02:02 PM
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Originally posted by Old Skooler
Very glad to hear you got resolution on this, Glenn. Your car is too beautiful too have two big holes on the front, not to mention those half-crescent scrapes. Catch at the next meet, bro. Maybe I'll try those mini-burgers then....
Matt
Very glad to hear you got resolution on this, Glenn. Your car is too beautiful too have two big holes on the front, not to mention those half-crescent scrapes. Catch at the next meet, bro. Maybe I'll try those mini-burgers then....
Matt
It was nice to meet ya and you'll have to try the 'Bar' burgers next time.. They're great! I'm pleased that the dealership is going to replace the bumper. It really is the only right thing to do. They said for me to just let them know when a good time would work for me. I think they want to try and fix it first then if I don't like it they'll replace it. I'm pretty sure I could save them the time right now because I won't like it until I have a 'new' bumper.
10-10-2002, 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by gmoneyr1
Yeah Mat,
It was nice to meet ya and you'll have to try the 'Bar' burgers next time.. They're great! I'm pleased that the dealership is going to replace the bumper. It really is the only right thing to do. They said for me to just let them know when a good time would work for me. I think they want to try and fix it first then if I don't like it they'll replace it. I'm pretty sure I could save them the time right now because I won't like it until I have a 'new' bumper.
Yeah Mat,
It was nice to meet ya and you'll have to try the 'Bar' burgers next time.. They're great! I'm pleased that the dealership is going to replace the bumper. It really is the only right thing to do. They said for me to just let them know when a good time would work for me. I think they want to try and fix it first then if I don't like it they'll replace it. I'm pretty sure I could save them the time right now because I won't like it until I have a 'new' bumper.
Glad to hear that they will resolve the problem to your satisfaction. When I see you next time, you should be a happier man. In the mean time, take you Z for a hill country drive on your day off. I'll take couple curves for you this Saturday.
10-10-2002, 10:50 AM
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My dealership replaced my bumper...
I had the same issue a month and a half ago. After 9 months of telling them not to screw on the front license plate bracket, the service manager dropped the ball and forgot to tell the tech's who prep the car. However, Arizona has no front license plate law, so it really shouldn't have ever become an issue. My dealership thinks it gives them good advertising, and they do it on every new car, which is stupid, cause most people take of the dealership's crappy license plate frame and trash it, anyway. My dealership, though, was great about it, and ordered me a new bumper, which was just painted and installed 2 weeks ago. It also looks much better without the holes and scrape marks they put on the bumper putting on the plate frame.
Bottom line: Even though you tell them, it doesn't mean it still won't happen. My salesman and sales manager BOTH told the service manager not to put on the front plate bracket (like 4 hours before they did the unthinkable), but he was too lazy to tell the techs who actually do the work. The only way to ensure it doesn't happen it to try to be there while they prep your car. Otherwise, even if you have told them till you are blue in the face, it could still happen (even if accidentally). Congrats on getting them to fix/replace yours.....
ariZona
Bottom line: Even though you tell them, it doesn't mean it still won't happen. My salesman and sales manager BOTH told the service manager not to put on the front plate bracket (like 4 hours before they did the unthinkable), but he was too lazy to tell the techs who actually do the work. The only way to ensure it doesn't happen it to try to be there while they prep your car. Otherwise, even if you have told them till you are blue in the face, it could still happen (even if accidentally). Congrats on getting them to fix/replace yours.....
ariZona
10-10-2002, 11:30 AM
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K&N Filter - changes?
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Could just be me but yes, I do notice some difference. I am at 750 miles on it right now so, I haven't really laid the hammer down but..it seems to wrap up to 4K RPM faster and with adjoining speed as well. At idle no change, at higher RPM a little bit in terms of sound. Sounds a little wetter.
Could just be me but yes, I do notice some difference. I am at 750 miles on it right now so, I haven't really laid the hammer down but..it seems to wrap up to 4K RPM faster and with adjoining speed as well. At idle no change, at higher RPM a little bit in terms of sound. Sounds a little wetter.
10-10-2002, 11:56 AM
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I had posted earlier regarding a similar issue. I bought my 350z off the showroom floor and the bracket was already mounted. I wasn’t happy with it but figured there was nothing I could do. When I removed the bracket there were two additional marks in the bumper where the dealer mounted the "Dealership Vanity Plate" on the car. They used bolts that were two long and it damaged the paint. I was pretty angry that they damaged the bumper as I was planning on getting plugs to fills the bracket holes. When I went back to the dealer they spouted off state law and all that crap about it being required. I simply said regardless there is no law that says I have to drive around with a dealer advertisement on my bumper. To make a long story short it took two weeks of bickering with the sales manager and finally the GM to pay to have my bumper refinished $650. I took it in Monday and got it back yesterday. It looks great and there are no starter holes to look at.
They were very concerned with the Survey that NNA sends in the mail. They flat out told me that they wouldn't do crap for me if I didn't mark completely satisfied on the survey. Needless to say they paid for the damage and I still have the survey. I'll go find another dealership to get my warranty work and service done. It's going to take me a while to document all the things that went wrong with my purchase, but I will send the survey in.
Glad they are working with you!
They were very concerned with the Survey that NNA sends in the mail. They flat out told me that they wouldn't do crap for me if I didn't mark completely satisfied on the survey. Needless to say they paid for the damage and I still have the survey. I'll go find another dealership to get my warranty work and service done. It's going to take me a while to document all the things that went wrong with my purchase, but I will send the survey in.
Glad they are working with you!
10-10-2002, 05:56 PM
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I think I saw a posting that said a new bumper (factory painted) was only around $500. Seems as though they paid more to repair your bumper than it would have cost them for a new one. Oh well, I'll give them a chance to repair mine but if I don't like it they will be buying a new one for my car... They won't be able to bribe me as far as the survey goes.. NNA will hear the truth and that's that..
03-12-2003, 09:07 PM
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Bumper Holes
Hi All....
Just joining the boat! Picked up my new Z the other day, and yes, holes in the bumper! $#@!
My dealer seems concerned with the Nissan Survey as well and I think I may use that to my advantage! It just sucks! I'm from PA and we have no front license law either....nor do they in Tennessee (where the dealer got it from)......
I just don't understand.....
Wes
Just joining the boat! Picked up my new Z the other day, and yes, holes in the bumper! $#@!
My dealer seems concerned with the Nissan Survey as well and I think I may use that to my advantage! It just sucks! I'm from PA and we have no front license law either....nor do they in Tennessee (where the dealer got it from)......
I just don't understand.....
Wes
03-12-2003, 09:35 PM
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Re: Bumper Holes
Originally posted by Humpa
Just joining the boat! Picked up my new Z the other day, and yes, holes in the bumper! $#@!
I just don't understand.....
Wes
Just joining the boat! Picked up my new Z the other day, and yes, holes in the bumper! $#@!
I just don't understand.....
Wes
I feel your pain. My dealership ended up fixing and repainting my bumper after one mention of that 'Satisfaction Survey'. I don't think they want anything bad making its way back to NNA. Just tell them that you're not at all happy with the holes and that you won't be able to give favorable feedback on that survey do to this issue. They'll cave in.... good luck
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03-12-2003, 09:46 PM
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Here in California they don't bother you about the front license plate. Meter maids in SF do though, when I used to live there I got 2 $25 tickets. Nissan is aware we don't want the holes drilled though, it's entirely your dealers fault. I got the Pre Delivery Inspection Checklist included with my car, and one of the checks clearly reads:
IMPORTANT: Consult with Sales Department. Install front license plate mounting hardware/bracket at customer request. Otherwise, place hardware in vehicle for future installation.
IMPORTANT: Consult with Sales Department. Install front license plate mounting hardware/bracket at customer request. Otherwise, place hardware in vehicle for future installation.