Sold my Z - it was time for an upgrade!
wait for the next noble...I'm not sure what its called, but I've heard its much more "car" and less "kit" than the M4
Honestly, I don't have a problem with getting an M12 and buying the drivetrain separately. Thinking at minimum it could be built to UK spec and be quick as he!! .. OR.. same basic configuration with a little more power tweaked out of the motor could land the performance somewhere between the UK M12 and M400 figures.
The car is complete minus engine & tranny when you get it.
The biggest issue is there is only 1 authorized US dealer (they only sell the M12 and M400) and there is a big demand for the Nobles so both styles require a preorder. I was told at least a 6mo wait.
Nevermind i saw it , won't even fit in that for 93 grand total package hahahahah 56-63 without engine or transmission and he shrink the car for free. haha For that much , ill make a Z that performs better than that for engined crap! sorrym but i have had experience with the Stype with that engine, it sux. I don't care if it is a turbo, if that the case i;ll turbo my Z. APS baby.
plus if i was that small i would get a lotus
this a toyota engine. and turbo that. WHOO! and if i really want to spend money i'll put in an rsx i-vtec engine in it, and turbo that with a cybernation kit and crap on every ar know to man. But i am 6-3 1/2 270 pounds i barely fit in my Z, my big curly FRo hits the ceiling. hahahah
this a toyota engine. and turbo that. WHOO! and if i really want to spend money i'll put in an rsx i-vtec engine in it, and turbo that with a cybernation kit and crap on every ar know to man. But i am 6-3 1/2 270 pounds i barely fit in my Z, my big curly FRo hits the ceiling. hahahah
i've been looking at the m12, too, the only thing is the waiting! it's a supercar on a budget and very rare in the united states ... maybe another 1.5 years and ill have my hands on one
you can find all the info at www.1gracing.com
you can find all the info at www.1gracing.com
not sure what crack Orange Peel is smokin', but A) the M12 with the correctly build UK motor clocks in around 80K, not 93K
And for that price invested into a Z, the Z will still never match it on performance. The M12 is a high 3 second 0-60 car and pulls greater than 1g skid pads. Basically Enzo level performance minus the stoopid top speed, Ferrari pedigree, and equally stoopid price tag.
I luv the Z, but I'm not in denial. Biggest hurdle is fronting the cash for such a long wait.
And for that price invested into a Z, the Z will still never match it on performance. The M12 is a high 3 second 0-60 car and pulls greater than 1g skid pads. Basically Enzo level performance minus the stoopid top speed, Ferrari pedigree, and equally stoopid price tag.
I luv the Z, but I'm not in denial. Biggest hurdle is fronting the cash for such a long wait.
350 hp
350 tq
2300 lbs

you don't have to use the recommended motor either. something like a boosted nsx motor in there might be a little more fun, more hp, a little less tq but 8500 redline
350 tq
2300 lbs

you don't have to use the recommended motor either. something like a boosted nsx motor in there might be a little more fun, more hp, a little less tq but 8500 redline
Last edited by Moroccan_Mole; Aug 31, 2004 at 01:58 PM.
is it just me, or does the black lambo in the second pic have a huge dent on the front quarterpanel?
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