If you think there is going to be a turbo factory warrantied turbo kit from Nismo, you are on crack.

Show me one case ever of a mainstream manufacturer offering a bolt on turbo kit???? TRD is the only manufacturer to ever offer a supercharger as far as I know and they offered it only for much more lightly stressed engines. Still, these engines have been failing like crazy!! Keep dreaming people.

 

I second that, but if it were a SC I'd go 3500-4K.



What do you say to this Mr350z???

 

I'd pay $3,500-4000 for SC installed, maybe a bit more if no voided warranty. It would have to give me 100hp gain (ON IT'S OWN...NOT WITH INTAKE AND EXHAUST UPGRADE!) You'd have to be careful with the pricing...once you get near the $40K mark I'd just as soon spend the money on a different vehicle. Beyond that...if additional feedback is desired: If it doesn't get me 100hp regardless of price, I'm not going to buy it and will go aftermarket elsewhere...that's the "break point" for me. In order to get me to dig that deep in my pocket, I HAVE to be able to accomplish near 400hp or I'll leave it stock.

 

First give us the electonics to get 320 HP. Then the simple things, intake, headers, reasonably priced exhaust, not $2K, all with improved performance. Offer cams, gears, normal hop up stuff. As for an SC, there's no reason a factory produced blower can't give 100 hp for $3500.
With an intercooled turbo, I might pay up to $5k for one that had potential to make more than 100 HP.
I love my car and I want it to have more HP, but it has to be reasonable.
Most of us bought the car because we like the design , the newness, and the fact that the total package was affordable. It's possible that if the average buyer had $10k more in the begining he might have bought something else with higher performance stock.
Nismo has hinted to us that various choices were going to be offered several months ago, it's time to deliver instead of still asking questions. The aftermarket is obviously up to the challenge , already showing prototypes, and if some sort of warranty is not offered, I'll spend my money on most bang for the buck.

 

From my point of view I would be interested in a package that would add about 30 to 50 HP with out giving up the low end performance for $2500 to $3500. I would expect to have to install it myself (I do not expect that most installers would do a better job of installation than I would). I would expect the usual industry warnettee and that the mod would be reliable, maintainable and smog legal.
In my opinion to expect more is unrealistic (either Hp or performance) and if it cost more I would have to consider other cars in the higher price range.

 

$5-6k for a SC or TT with warranty installed with no less than 100hp. As mentioned before, I like the idea of performance packages being offered. Something like a Stage 1,2,3 intervals.

thanks Mr.350z for the opportunity.

 

Which Vehicle did TRD make a blower for ?.................

Ford is another manufacter
Actually in the mid 90's(94-98) FORD, (SVO) offered a Roots blower to the Mustang GT only, at that time the GT was stock 215/225 hp and 280+tq , the blower gave the GT 315hp and 345tq
SVO only offered the GT blower as a bolt-on kit through the SVO catalog or SVO service dept
At that time Ford had 2 performance groups SVO and SVT
SVT was a separate group within Ford, and later made the Cobra witch did not have a blower option but made 300 hp

 

TRD made a blower for the Tacoma, and the Camry:

http://www.trdracing.com/pack_supercharger.htm

 

TRD makes a supercharger for the toyota 4 runner....


I call for a supercharger for $3k or turbo in the 5k range.

=====I think we would all like 20-25 rwhp per $1000.========

Don't void the factory warrantee and you will shut out the aftermarket sales. (good thing for nismo sales) I am willing to pay more to keep my warrantee and extended warrantee. If nismo voids the factory warrantee AND is more expensive than aftermarket companies...WHY buy nismo????

I personally am willing to buy aftermarket parts like exhaust and intake from aftermarket companies because its cheaper and wont void factory warrantee.

But when it comes to CAMS, Forced Induction, Chips, and non bolt on parts....Keep the factory warrantee on this stuff and NISMO will be the leader in this market....

Selling and marketing strategies I think will make NISMO the best.

----Sell Stage kits-------(for example)

FIRST: intake, exhaust, and chip (put a car sticker or badges in the kit like NISMO stage1)

SECOND: cam, header, pulleys...whatever (put a car sticker or badges in the kit like NISMO stage2)

THIRD: Turbo or supercharger, intercooler, and waste gate low off valve...whaterver. (put a car sticker in the kit like NISMO stage3)

If someone buys all 3 do something special...like add the body kit for 50 Percent off and Say that you will give the car a official document that states that your 350z is a offical NISMO car...THAT WOULD BE GREAT FOR OUR RESALE VALUE....so its smart and a good investment for us owners to buy from Nismo or nissan.

IF YOU DO THIS AT A REASONABLE PRICE....YOU WILL BLOW CORVETTE SALES OUT OF THE WATER.....

 

I just dont see how they can get more hp from forced induction out of this engine. The compression ratio is allready high. The nissan guys have allready done a miraculous job on almost no back flow from the exhaust. the chip program is also extremely aggresive.

Replacing the chip/exhaust wont accomplish much in the way of HP. maybe you could reduce some weight?

adding a SC/turbo that slams the compression up to something that reaches an extra 100hp on THIS car engine is not reasonable to expect under warranty. They just cant do it. Too much boost in an engine allready taxed. If you want to bore out your cylinders to make a 3.6 liter engine like that racing GT version they have, then maybe you could pull this off.

Remember this is the same engine in the old 300z. just a bit bigger. Its in the altima and maxima. They managed 287hp out of a sedan engine at NA. thats pretty damn great.

I hope I am way wrong, but I fear that I am not.

 

I think $5K should buy you 100HP+

 

I would pay $5k for 100hp and a warranty. Actually, I would probably do it tomorrow. I'm a pessimist like Raceboy though. I don't see this happening. I can see a FI kit being released by NISMO, but not with a warranty...that's my bet. NISMO could make an absolute killing with a warrantied FI kit though...I can already see the $$$ they would rake in. I'm not getting my hopes up though.

I like Abyss' outline for the stages. That would be nice...either an NA route, or the FI route.

 

Thanks for the input guys, pretty much confirms what we have been thinking.

BTW, just got through building the Nismo Z's we will debut at the SEMA show. Can't wait to hear this forum's comments, you're gonna love'em.

 

MR350Z,

I was wondering if you had any comments on the rumors that the Z's engine is "held back" by the ECU? Some have guessed that this approach would be a good strategy for leaving room to upgrade future year models of the Z if sales start to slump. Also, others considered the possibility that the engine is held back in order to more easily make NISMO sales.

I know I'd be disappointed if a NISMO ECU flash upgrade takes the Z from 287 to 315 without even needing intake or exhaust changes. That would be like paying for the car twice, IMO.

Will most of the NISMO bolt-on mods require ECU flash upgrades? And if so, will the cost of the flash upgrade be included in the MSRP of the item in question?

Thanks for any info you can give us.

--
Jeff

 

With all due respect, I don't think 350Z sales will ever impact Corvette sales. If it was all about HP/$, people would buy Z28's over Vettes because you get 85% of the performance for half the price. If it was all about being trendy and having the newest car on the block, offerings like Thunderbird would have made dents. Most buyers of Vettes do so for the prestige and history of the car, along with the midlife crisis "want to have a vette while I'm still alive" syndrome. Its the same thing for the Mustang.

The Corvette has been around since 1953, I highly doubt any new offering to the sportscar market will affect its sales, especially something as small as a factory Turbo kit.

That being said, if Nissan does offer a factory-backed Turbo kit I'd be pretty jealous because GM would never do such a thing. Also, Nissan bringing the Skyline GT-R back to America should be pretty exciting.

 

Steve,
Don't be jealous. I guess your talking about the V8 and it's not a turbo , but GM is offering a SC for the 4 cylinder Cavalier. It's a start!
That's why I don't find it impossible for Nismo, TRD, or SVT, etc. to offer FI kits in future. The manufacturers have realized the amount of money spent in the aftermarket and want a piece. GM sees the $'s spent on Hondas and now they have an 800 HP Cavalier drag car. SVT is looking at the Focus. Dodge , the Neon turbo, all these are the starting points and the manufacturers are going to supply parts. A fews years ago who would have thought Ford would have a 390 HP SC Mustang? Not me.
Just because someone hasn't done it the past doesn't mean they won't in the future. I can't believe Nismo is making so much noise if all they are going to offer is GT-R badges............badges we don't need no stinkin' badges.
Bob

 

At this point, any pulse from the General with regard to factory performance is a good thing.

Killing a 30 year old performance legend, then offering a Cavalier supercharger just seems like a kick to the groin though.

 

Don't forget the Mazdaspeed factory modified Protege. It has a turbo and about 50 mods and all covered under warranty. Nothing is impossible. The companies DO see the $s in the aftermarket and they DO want a piece.

 

hate to burst people's bubbles like this, BUT....

an aftermarket SC or turbo option is going to cost WAY more than 3-4K. Unwarrantied aftermarket prices are that or HIGHER on most other makes...Dont' forget INSTALL costs too. jsut warnign for people expecting 100HP for under 4K.