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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 11:40 AM
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I actually don't mind the boomerang lights (at least in the back). The front looks a bit awkward, but it depends on the pics. I am sure in person it'll look better.

Part of the problem is the offset and the ride height. Lower the ride height with some fresh springs and change the rear offset by 5% and it looks good.

Finally: the VQ should be EOL (end of lifed) at these large sizes. 3.7 liters? Crazy. I think we need a step backwards in time to a 3.0 with a turbo. Maybe even smaller, like 2.8.

It seems that the new Z has priced itself out of range, ala the old 300z. No wonder that people are talking about the new Silvia.

But Nissan wants to have two Halo cars and entry and a 911 killer.
Plus all this R&D happened before the recession.

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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by xray2
It seems that the new Z has priced itself out of range, ala the old 300z. No wonder that people are talking about the new Silvia.
I dont know why people keep thinking this. As I said before . . .


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I dont think nissan is headed down the same path at all. Dont forget, the average price for a new car now is right at 30 grand. Given that fact and given the fact it still comes in cheaper than when the 300ZX exited 12 years ago when the average price of a car was $18,563 . . . i would say nissan has it right.
I would be very surprised if an 09 equivalent (base + sport packages) of the old track model trim will cost more than the when it was last offered in 06.
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Old Nov 13, 2008 | 05:01 PM
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We'll know for sure... Im guessing in about 6-8 days.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 12:16 AM
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I dont know why people keep thinking this. As I said before . . .




I would be very surprised if an 09 equivalent (base + sport packages) of the old track model trim will cost more than the when it was last offered in 06.

Ok, granted that car prices are not that more expensive inflation adjusted or otherwise, the upcoming Z might be closer to cresting 40k for the top model. Not too many Base Zs are sold anyway. Enthusiasts are the real high sale items.

The point is, is that Nissan is bumping the Z up to make room for another model, or commodity prices have pushed up the costs.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 04:22 AM
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Well in 09 there are only 2 trims. . . Base and Touring and you can get the sport package on either. I think when the pricing is released you will see that it no more expensive than the exiting model with same appointments.

In 1996 a loaded TT model tickled the 40 grand mark. Here we are 12/13 years later and we get a car that out performs it in every way, and it still comes in cheaper.

Nissan is not driving the cost up and there is plenty of room for them to make another model, which i think has been shelved anyway.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 04:27 AM
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Originally Posted by VandyZ

In 1996 a loaded TT model tickled the 40 grand mark. Here we are 12/13 years later and we get a car that out performs it in every way, and it still comes in cheaper.
Thank you!!! How much was $40k twelve years ago in today's dollars?!!?!!?
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Demon Z
Thank you!!! How much was $40k twelve years ago in today's dollars?!!?!!?
according to the standard CF it would be $51,546.40 or the price of a new C6 Corvette
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 06:52 AM
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Nissan is not driving the cost up and there is plenty of room for them to make another model, which i think has been shelved anyway.

Hey Marty, what have you seen or heard about this. When i was at a Cars and Coffee meet organized by NNA employees, it was said that projects of this nature have been terminated until further notice. I wasnt surprised one bit when i heard it. I never thought they would bring back an entry level RWD coupe anyway.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 07:06 AM
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You know who else has priced themselves out of the market?

Freaking Coca-cola! I mean, you used to be able to get that **** for 5 cents a bottle...
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 08:44 AM
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You know who else has priced themselves out of the market?

Freaking Coca-cola! I mean, you used to be able to get that **** for 5 cents a bottle...
Bastards....
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 09:00 AM
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From what I have heard is the 2.0 coupe is still around, but on hold. The only reason I think it still has ANY life is because of the upcoming toyota/subaru RWD coupe.
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Old Nov 14, 2008 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by VandyZ
Well in 09 there are only 2 trims. . . Base and Touring and you can get the sport package on either. I think when the pricing is released you will see that it no more expensive than the exiting model with same appointments.

In 1996 a loaded TT model tickled the 40 grand mark. Here we are 12/13 years later and we get a car that out performs it in every way, and it still comes in cheaper.

Nissan is not driving the cost up and there is plenty of room for them to make another model, which i think has been shelved anyway.
The difference here is that you can't compare performance between generations that far apart; it just doesn't make sense. The ZX in '96 was liek the 3000GT, a technology and performance halo car at a midrange price.

But we will see what Nissan has cooking. Probably most manufacturers have shelved many niche cars, as their R&D is about the same, but volumes drastically different. There might be 1 generation dry spell before something new peformance oriented comes out, or might be recaast as a hybrid like the CR-Z.
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