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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ULLLOSE
No we did not.... No brake, does not matter what speed you are going, or what gear you are in - works right up to redline. You can even skip gears and get a dead on match.

This was a very quick test drive, we only had an hour, and we were on a public road so we could not get on it hard. We will do more testing next week when we have the car for a few days.
Well being that it works as you describe, it doesn't sound bad. Can you verify if turning the feature off remains off even after the car has been shut down?
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by OldDirty Z33
Seemed like it wasn't really doing it.??
Watch the speed VS tach, when it is working you will see the speed does not change when we go down.
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianV
Well being that it works as you describe, it doesn't sound bad. Can you verify if turning the feature off remains off even after the car has been shut down?
When you start the car it is on, this is the default, you have to turn it off each time you start the car. If you can get your hands on the media intro guide you can read more about it. Beyond that, wait for them to hit the dealers and do a test drive.
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Old Nov 20, 2008 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ULLLOSE
When you start the car it is on, this is the default, you have to turn it off each time you start the car. If you can get your hands on the media intro guide you can read more about it. Beyond that, wait for them to hit the dealers and do a test drive.
THAT SUCKS. Thanks for the help, but WHY must features always turn back ON every time I start a car. I kind of understand the VDC thing for safety reasons, but if I don't like this feature, why can't I leave it off? I currently rev-match every shift and I'm not sure I want a computer doing it for me. This is one of the reasons I still buy manuals transmissions...

I mean other features stay how they are through resets (radio preset, climate control, heated seat functions, high beams, etc.); just not VDC and this thing.
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by dkmura
I couldn't disagree more with the 'notchy clunky gearboxes" comment on 350Zs. Both my street and race 350Zs have beautiful actions in the riflebolt-like shifter. If you know how to heel-and-toe downshift, the shifts are light, easy and direct. As for "getting in gear quickly is hampered by something getting in the way", what you're referring to is the syncromesh mechanism that matches the speed of the input shaft with engine RPM. That was a great advance at one point and anyone who has driven a dogring racing or non-synco gearbox can attest.

The point is, while Nissan developed another technological wonder in SyncroRev, don't discount how GOOD gearboxes have become, especially with the 009 version 350Z 'box!
+1 dkmura, i have always thought the gearbox in my 350Z had a great feeling, better than alot of RWD's I have driven. I can understand his descriptions and have felt the same thing, but its just the direct linkage. It gives you great feedback and there is never a numb feeling.

BTW, i am still on 001 version with 89K miles. I can induce the 3rd and 5th gear grind issue by sloppy shifting, but 99.9% of the time i can shift it quick and smooth without issue. Rev match is essential on downshifts.

I think the auto rev match on downshift will teach drivers the correct way to downshift and save alot of tranny tear ups.

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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 06:43 AM
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Is this Nissan's solution to the infamous bad synchro problem for the 350z? It looks cool and all, but still not sure how it feels when doing spirited driving.. Going to feel awakard without heel/toe.
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Apexi350z
Is this Nissan's solution to the infamous bad synchro problem for the 350z? It looks cool and all, but still not sure how it feels when doing spirited driving.. Going to feel awakard without heel/toe.
I wonder if they will turn the feedback of the drive by wire off during downshifting, meaning if the syncro rev match is on and we forget and do our own rev match it doesnt register our pressing of the accelerator and just goes about its own program. That would be best. It would suck if you forget and end up fighting with the car over rev's.
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 08:25 AM
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does anyone know for sure if it only comes on the sport package, or if the base gets it too? I seem to have found conflicting information about that...
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by skaterbasist
It's lame.

If anyone owns a manual transmission and can't even do something as fun (and necessary) as rev-matching, then they shouldn't even be driving an MT to begin.

I'm glad there's an off button. I like doing my rev-matching myself
Then there are those people that own MT that start hating on the people that got Autos.
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 09:33 AM
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If rev matching is all about keeping RPM high and close to 'ideal' speed, watching the video with RevMatch off RPM drops to 4500, with RevMatch on it drops to 4800.

So it's only 300RPM difference? am I missing something?
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 10:35 AM
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So I like how it tells you what gear you are in now I've always wanted that in a MT car on the gauge...thought it would be a cool feature.

Oh well. I can live with the 350 for now
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Hypnoz
does anyone know for sure if it only comes on the sport package, or if the base gets it too? I seem to have found conflicting information about that...
I think only sport package.
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 12:08 PM
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nevermind...edited
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 03:36 PM
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do you guys think this rev matching system defaults to OFF when you start the car or ON? I would be disliking if it defaults ON and I would have to turn it off everytime I drive!
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Old Nov 21, 2008 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ART_
If rev matching is all about keeping RPM high and close to 'ideal' speed, watching the video with RevMatch off RPM drops to 4500, with RevMatch on it drops to 4800.

So it's only 300RPM difference? am I missing something?
No... do you know what happens when you downshift without blipping the throttle? When you let out the clutch the car jerks as the flywheel speed doesn't match transmission speed. It is like mishifting from 3rd to 2nd and the car jerks and revs high.

If you get to know your car well you'll be able to determine the gear, revolutions, and speed of the car. It becomes second nature how much to blip the throttle depending on what gear you are in and how fast your car is going (i.e., how fast the wheels are spinning). Don't look at the numbers or think about how much in terms of RPM.

Rev matching is not rocket science... you can Google for explanation:
http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=rev%20matching

I don't use the heel-toe technique since I don't track my car, but I do rev match when I downshift so I can engine brake as well as leave it in gear for safety reasons. Nothing new there either, but I was a noob once ('03 Z being my first back in 2002). It is a very rewarding feeling once executed properly.
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Old Nov 22, 2008 | 09:00 AM
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Oh I got a good one for you guys... I wonder if the system can be defeated by blipping the throttle before the computer takes over when downshifting. If it works this way, I'm sure we can daily drive with the system defaulted on without intrusion and manually blip the throttle at our convenience.
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