Notices
2009+ 370Z General discussion and news for the Z34 (2009+) Nissan 370z with the new 3.7-liter V6

370 base $1250 down 513 per month. HELP

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 6, 2009 | 02:34 PM
  #21  
Cadre's Avatar
Cadre
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 65
Likes: 0
From: midwest
Default

No deal for a lease.
Reply
Old May 6, 2009 | 02:51 PM
  #22  
Master Shake's Avatar
Master Shake
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 775
Likes: 1
From: Phoenix
Default

Originally Posted by STLZ
Base 6spd Manual with Mats and Splash
MSRP $30,0960
Invoice $28992

Moneyfactor .00310 -Tier 0
Residual 56%
15,000 Miles
$1250 Down
595 Acq Fee
No tax,title,lic. or dealer fees
39 Mons @ $423.84 Monthly Payment.

Your Welcome
Only 56% residual after 39 months???
Reply
Old May 6, 2009 | 03:15 PM
  #23  
USMCkang's Avatar
USMCkang
Registered User
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 324
Likes: 0
From: La Palma
Default

Leasing is the smartest thing to do when purchasing any given car IF the vehicle has a lease special.

Be wary that leases can be haggled and most often, the advertised lease prices being advertised are at full sticker - so you can definitely get less.

Think about it - when you lease a car you don't have to carry any negative equity with you, the only maintenance you'll ever have to do is oil changes, and at the end of 3 years you have the choice of buying out the car, or if you have any equity in it (seeing that it has good resale value) you can trade it in for something else.

IMO - keep the G wait it out on the 370z.. At least finish up the last 3 months, your almost there. I'm willing to bet that the auto industry is going to continue to decline or stay stagnant for the next 3 months meaning there will be more incentives as time goes by and dealerships will be more lenient on price. Also +1 on not shopping around for payments, even if it is a lease.
Reply
Old May 6, 2009 | 03:38 PM
  #24  
twitch579's Avatar
twitch579
Registered User
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 940
Likes: 0
From: Florida
Default

You would have to be crazy to buy one of those cars when the DI VQ's are coming out in like 1-2 years.
Reply
Old May 6, 2009 | 03:44 PM
  #25  
STLZ's Avatar
STLZ
Banned
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 208
Likes: 0
From: St. Louis
Default

Originally Posted by Master Shake
Only 56% residual after 39 months???
Yes. That is the residual. There are no lease specail on the Z currently since it is a new launch product. The money factor I listed is at NMAC's cost. No mark up there. That is bottom line the cheapest lease for the Z. You can go 10,000 miles and save maybe $10.00 a month there. If you go past 39 mons. the Residual drops more and the money factor goes up. I would advise going past 39 months on the lease. Also, I would put money down on a lease all your doing is buying down the monthly payment, unless you need to get it closer to your comfort level.
Reply
Old May 6, 2009 | 03:50 PM
  #26  
laze1's Avatar
laze1
New Member
iTrader: (17)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 1,611
Likes: 2
From: Atlanta GA
Default

See if you can get one of these deals...

http://amexnetwork.zag.com/main.html
Reply
Old May 6, 2009 | 05:30 PM
  #27  
davidv's Avatar
davidv
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 42,753
Likes: 11
From: Tucson, AZ
Default

Originally Posted by shesha1
Its a lease, my G35 lease ends in Aug. So they are taking it back with 3 payments left.

The car was 30k. AUTOMATIC!!!ok and as for shopping for payments, its a 39 month lease, I will not buy the car when the lease is over, so Im shopping for a decent monthly payment.....so far it has been nothing close to $513.00 so I jumped on it.

I take it from the response im not going to get a good answer unless I was buying.

Thank you all anyways.
Sorry but I don't rent cars. Maybe for a week on vacation but not for years.
Reply
Old May 6, 2009 | 05:58 PM
  #28  
PV350Z's Avatar
PV350Z
Banned
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 172
Likes: 0
From: PV/Houston,Texas
Default

Originally Posted by jubes
I understand depreciation, but if you look in the long run in regards to saving $... If you're getting a car for functional purposes and value for the $ you spend, a lease is not worth it.

Let's say you spend 30K on a 370z... paid full versus a 30 mos. lease @ 520 per/mos.

granted every 3 years you get a new car, you're also spending 16K every 3 years, and by the way the OP is stating his minimal interest in keeping a car longer than that, he'll be continually doing this for awhile. And he's said that he's initially done this @ the age of 18... then lets factor if he does this til he retires, which typically is 65, which means he'll have leased 15 times within his working years (65-18=47/3 ~ 15x). $225k > 30k (+ 60k for possibly other future car purchases)

That's about a 1/4 of a million spent on leasing cars alone. I honestly think you could be more productive with that much money else where. This excludes the fact that he uses his payment as a tax deduction.

THE MOST INFORMATIVE POST OF THE YEAR YET.....THE LEASE MASTER JUST GOT
Reply
Old May 6, 2009 | 08:27 PM
  #29  
STLZ's Avatar
STLZ
Banned
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 208
Likes: 0
From: St. Louis
Default

It makes sense if your cars aren't losing value. So If I told you that your dream house that you wanted to buy ,let's say a 2 million dollar home, in 2 years it would depreciate by 50% would you still buy or rent ?
Reply
Old May 6, 2009 | 10:31 PM
  #30  
skaterbasist's Avatar
skaterbasist
Registered User
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 2,071
Likes: 0
From: .
Default

No deal.

I'm paying $530 a month for a $36,000 (negotiated price) 06 G35 Coupe on a 36 month lease. That was with 1k down and a good credit score.
Reply
Old May 6, 2009 | 10:38 PM
  #31  
jubes's Avatar
jubes
Registered User
iTrader: (22)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,185
Likes: 2
From: Los Angeles, Ca
Default

Originally Posted by STLZ
It makes sense if your cars aren't losing value. So If I told you that your dream house that you wanted to buy ,let's say a 2 million dollar home, in 2 years it would depreciate by 50% would you still buy or rent ?
I would never consider a car an asset, it's more of a tool to attain more assets. You don't rent tools, you use them up until they are unusable.

If you look at some of the most successful CEO's, and I remember reading this in an article of some financial magazine like Forbes, that some of them drive cars that you would least likely think you'd see them driving. I can't remember specifically who but I remember one was driving like a 92 Ford Taurus, and this guy had a salary of 1.4 million + bonuses. The reporter asked "...why don't you purchase a porsche, or a bentley? you can afford it" They simply replied that it was all about being practical...

That article changed my perspective of purchasing automobiles.
Reply
Old May 6, 2009 | 10:40 PM
  #32  
iceman21_23's Avatar
iceman21_23
Registered User
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 730
Likes: 1
From: Houston
Default

imho dont bother getting a 370 unless you are getting it with a sports package...
Reply
Old May 7, 2009 | 01:04 AM
  #33  
got556's Avatar
got556
Registered User
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 887
Likes: 0
From: Indiana
Default

Originally Posted by jubes
I would never consider a car an asset, it's more of a tool to attain more assets. You don't rent tools, you use them up until they are unusable.

If you look at some of the most successful CEO's, and I remember reading this in an article of some financial magazine like Forbes, that some of them drive cars that you would least likely think you'd see them driving. I can't remember specifically who but I remember one was driving like a 92 Ford Taurus, and this guy had a salary of 1.4 million + bonuses. The reporter asked "...why don't you purchase a porsche, or a bentley? you can afford it" They simply replied that it was all about being practical...

That article changed my perspective of purchasing automobiles.

Kinda like Warren Buffet's house and his reasons for keeping it instead of moving into one of the Hollywood castles...

Good luck OP.
Reply
Old May 7, 2009 | 04:56 AM
  #34  
STLZ's Avatar
STLZ
Banned
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 208
Likes: 0
From: St. Louis
Default

Originally Posted by jubes
I would never consider a car an asset, it's more of a tool to attain more assets. You don't rent tools, you use them up until they are unusable.

If you look at some of the most successful CEO's, and I remember reading this in an article of some financial magazine like Forbes, that some of them drive cars that you would least likely think you'd see them driving. I can't remember specifically who but I remember one was driving like a 92 Ford Taurus, and this guy had a salary of 1.4 million + bonuses. The reporter asked "...why don't you purchase a porsche, or a bentley? you can afford it" They simply replied that it was all about being practical...

That article changed my perspective of purchasing automobiles.
I agree, but it depends on how long your going to keep your car. I don't think everybody out there keeps there cars for 6+ years, when the value of their car and their note finally breakeven. That is my whole point. It all depends on your buying cycle. Anyway, I will stop beating a deadhorse everybody is entitled to their own opinion. I was simply trying to help out with the lease figures.

Last edited by STLZ; May 7, 2009 at 05:17 PM.
Reply
Old May 7, 2009 | 06:48 AM
  #35  
Lento's Avatar
Lento
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,823
Likes: 0
From: Boston, MA
Default

Just think logicly and you should figure this out in a heartbeat. Look at the big picture

$513 X 39 months = $20,007

The car costs $30,000 outright, if you look hard enought maybe get invoice at $28,000

This lease agreements = da stupidst

For a few bucks more why not just make payments to own the car

I highly doubt in 3 years your car will have a resale of $10,000

Last edited by Lento; May 7, 2009 at 07:56 AM.
Reply
Old May 7, 2009 | 07:19 AM
  #36  
scotts300's Avatar
scotts300
350Z-holic
Premier Member
iTrader: (46)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 8,193
Likes: 7
From: Away
Default

Originally Posted by Lento
Just think logicly and you should figure this out in a heartbeat. Look at the big picture

$513 X 39 months = $20,007

The car costs $30,000 outright, if you look hard enought maybe get invoice at $28,000

This lease agreements = da stupidst

For a few bucks more why not just make payments to own the car
Because he can write off the full value of a lease as a business expense.
Reply
Old May 7, 2009 | 08:52 AM
  #37  
shesha1's Avatar
shesha1
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
From: LA
Default

"Because he can write off the full value of a lease as a business expense. "



Thank you!

I got the car. Thank you for all your inout as to how stupid I am to lease. I guess non of you actually have done it befor. You are all recalling the story your dad told you 15 years ago, how "to own your car" "Never lease its not yours"
Without even understanding how a lease works.

Thanks anyways.
Reply
Old May 7, 2009 | 09:34 AM
  #38  
halcyon901's Avatar
halcyon901
Registered User
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 568
Likes: 0
From: NY
Default

Originally Posted by Lento
Just think logicly and you should figure this out in a heartbeat. Look at the big picture

$513 X 39 months = $20,007

The car costs $30,000 outright, if you look hard enought maybe get invoice at $28,000

This lease agreements = da stupidst

For a few bucks more why not just make payments to own the car

I highly doubt in 3 years your car will have a resale of $10,000
you forgot to add the interest he would have paid had he purchased the car, but nonetheless, i still agree with you.
Reply
Old May 7, 2009 | 09:47 AM
  #39  
jubes's Avatar
jubes
Registered User
iTrader: (22)
 
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 2,185
Likes: 2
From: Los Angeles, Ca
Default

Originally Posted by shesha1
"Because he can write off the full value of a lease as a business expense. "



Thank you!

I got the car. Thank you for all your inout as to how stupid I am to lease. I guess non of you actually have done it befor. You are all recalling the story your dad told you 15 years ago, how "to own your car" "Never lease its not yours"
Without even understanding how a lease works.

Thanks anyways.
Ummm, I've leased 3 cars before, so I know what I'm talking about and still thinks it's a waste... I would also note correcting your spelling errors before you try to belittle someone. Doesn't really hold a real effect when it almost seems contradictive.

Last edited by jubes; May 7, 2009 at 09:49 AM.
Reply
Old May 7, 2009 | 10:42 AM
  #40  
shesha1's Avatar
shesha1
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 15
Likes: 0
From: LA
Default

Originally Posted by jubes
Ummm, I've leased 3 cars before, so I know what I'm talking about and still thinks it's a waste... I would also note correcting your spelling errors before you try to belittle someone. Doesn't really hold a real effect when it almost seems contradictive.
Thank you, fully noted!
Reply



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:57 PM.