sounds like it wont be when ever that tenesse even is

 

Philthy is pulling the classic bully being the victim defense, as he always does. then calls in the mods to punish everyone else. but he forgets that they read everything in context. And even the posts I removed for a clean read are available in his quotes if the mods care. but I took it upon myself before philthy cried to remove them...

- he insulted BC first, obviously showing his intent in the thread, and I can only imagine the PMs and AIM conversations with his cohorts

- he would not simply answer a direct question, resulting in the question being repeated many times

- he brought up my avatar trying to deflect the questions

- he continued to pursue dragging BC through the mud to prove some point he has against them/performance factory/et al. until he saw no one was buying into the bashing anymore.

The "Not-It" Excuse ~ This apology is characterized by the apologizer blaming something (or someone) else for the situation. These apologies do not even attempt to use the words "I'm sorry," and sound something like "Well, you know, it is not my fault..." This type of apology is commonly heard when dealing with someone who was supposed to provide goods or services.

 

Didn't look at the pics, just remember reading that somewhere and wanted to confirm.

 

I loved seeing that GTR run around the track, it was impressive.

 

I only got to see a little taste of WOT at Zdayz unfortunately. I wish I could have seen it on the Dragon

 

Wow... this thread blew up while I was away the rest of the day.

From my perspective, I see a defensive representative of PF (Black Guy) and lot of members from Florida or nearby, as well as known PF customers ganging up on Philthy in this thread. Performance Sacktory is in full effect.

Bottom line: The BC car underperformed horribly and sounded like sh*t on the dyno. Now we're hearing excuses that the car had worn tires and was setup with lots of negative camber for time attack. That negative camber didn't seem to help it much against the competition in the road course or autocross events. It still performed lack luster.

When a controversial car that your shop had involvement in performs poorly against the competition... Blame it on the tires and shoot the messenger.

 

So which shop nuts are you swinging on

 

It's proudly in my sig and a car from that shop isn't the car being discussed here. If you ever see a car from that shop fail to perform up to the hype or expectations, you can use that ROFL emoticon all you want.

The first VQ shop car from my shop holds multiple world records both on the dyno and the track (as well as a history on other platforms that includes numerous magazine cover features, lots of 9 second cars, winning show cars, etc. etc.). So I think I'm swinging on the right nuts.

 

Congrats! Glad you found some sweet *****

 

I didn't deny once that the car underperformed. I only stated why. That G35 is basically a street car with a cage in it. That not a lame excuse, im just stating it. We forgot our good tires, because of the 3 day rush, and short notice to get to Arizona, from florida. Thats not a lame excuse, im just stating another fact. We had crazy amounts of traction issues. Another fact, not a lame excuse. The car underperformed. We're not afraid to say it. For the 3 days, we worked on brakes, and air ducts for the brakes. And in the rush of prepping the car, and leaving at 2 am for our 30+ hour drive, we left 4 brand new R888's in the shop, not realizing until we were in Texas. Oh well, and who knows how the car wouldve performed with better tire. It may have still underperformed. All Performance Factory did was tune the vehicle, thats it, so im not just "blaming it on the tires and shooting the messenger". Im just trying to give the **** talkers a better understand. And I dont believe I see any Performance Factory customers in this thread. The car did well at the red line time attack, and im sure it'll hold its own. The car isnt a race car yet, unlike its competition. And this is BC's first season like I stated earlier. Live and learn, everyone makes rookie mistakes. So continue the name calling (sacktory), and downing of a new competitor trying to find its way into the racing scene.

 

This is not even mentioning throwing in a completely different differential immediately after the dyno session and having ZERO testing with said diff.

Pete, and the BC crew are already above the haters by taking the former show car and competing in events. 99% of the people talking **** have never, and will never, run competitively in any time trial events. You're just internet haters and nay sayers trying to rain on peoples parades for your own self e-gratification rather than supporting the people evolving, testing new parts, and representing the Nissan/Infiniti community.

 

I'm sorry. I stopped reading once I saw the Subaru avatar and the April 2008 join date.

But seriously... You haven't been here long enough to know the history of the controversy with this car, it's driver, and one of the shops involved in the build. Call us haters or naysayers if you want. You're just another noob who's geographic proximity to one of the shops involved makes your intentions here painfully obvious.

Here's the sober truth for you, and if it hurts, so be it:
There are other cars here on this board that were way more deserving of being invited to this tuner challenge who would have performed superior and done a much better job of representing what the VQ platform is capable of. Philthy and XKR are a couple of guys (off the top of my head) who have G's that would IMO have performed significantly better.

 

I know all of Scott and Shariff's ********. Frankly, I don't care about it.

You and your troll friends find it compelling to bash Pete and the BC Racing Suspension team, but why? Is it out of jealousy? Spite? Rage, that you can't perform on that level?

 

If they were more deserving they would've been chosen. Im not doubting there cars. Im sure they are amazing machines. But under the circumstances of working their daily job selling bc racing suspension, and finding time to work on the G35, trying to fix this and that, in less than 3 days to drive out 30+ hours, **** happens. Sorry for the lame excuses. Just get over it. BC went to the challenge, did what they could with what they had, and your man crushes didnt. Sorry that you're completely disappointed with the performance, as im sure the team was also. But you have no idea what they went through just to make it out to arizona on time. Anyone with more time and preperation would've performed significantly better. What boxer goes into a fight with only 3 days of training? Get it? kthnx

 

Just because the car has history does not give you carte blanche to continue to attack the owner and people involved with it. get over it. it survived the dyno, it is racing... let it be. It isn't your shop, your car or your time. And if those other cars were as deserving they would have been invited. It appears that Philthy will be attending some sort of race in Tennessee from what the comments appear to say so we shall see. XKR's car is badass, but I didn't think he was interested in racing it, but I have no idea.

You have no reason to comment other than a selfish need to prove that you were right (not saying you are, just that you want to be). That is the sober truth.

 

So let me get this straight.... Philthy STARTS this thread, then him and others INCLUDING YOU start throwing around insults at BC when this thread isn't even supposed to be about BC.... and u are saying that we are "ganging" up on him? All this happens without us even getting involved.... and we are to blame for this?

Yeah the car didn't perform as well as we would of liked, there are reasons why... obviously that doesn't matter, at the end of the day we didn't perform well that weekend. Nobody is going to win everytime, the best we can do is work on the car and get ready for the next event and go out and perform. The point is, this useless trash talking on here isn't going to help anybody so why even start it?

 

From what I can see.. and having never seen their cars near a roadcourse, non-the-less ON one... I'd say its the latter..

 

The thread is about the Cobb GTR and the Modified Shootout... BC was part of the event and got called out for their crappy showing... 13.1 1/4 with 600+whp - 5 seconds off of the Full-Race prepped STREET STI, pure hysteria...

You guy keep saying that the BC car is a street car and has limited time on the track...? The STI had NEVER been to a track before this event! It's a daily driver, no cage, full interior, ac, etc... Yes it's AWD, but it also has over 100WHP less than the BC car, BTW they ran an 11.3 on street tires - they didn't put on the slicks until after they bought a set from Crawford after their car had a breakdown...

 

AWD has serious traction issues.

 

excuses, excuses... all I hear...