I was under the impression that unofficial time meant it had not been confirmed by a third party. i.e. Corvette ZR-1 posted a time of 7:26.4 confirmed. They now have an unofficial time of 7:22.4 (tried again in October or November) that has not been confirmed.

That is how I understood it. Can anyone confirm what is right? I honestly don't know. Because if I understood it correctly, an unofficial time doesn't mean sh*t. Anyone can say they ran whatever time they want.

 

Not really, websites will host the time if it is from a respected source. I.E., Nissan claimed 7:29 for the GTR with a video as proof. There was no independent verification, however, it it accepted by most.

Again, neither time for the ZR-1 has been verified by a 3rd party, however, most assume the 7:22'ish to be accurate (still a hair slower than the ACR). The 7:26 was posted some months before the 7:22 lap and with a professional driver, Jan Magnussen, at the wheel.

Personally, I'll wait for the SportAuto times to be posted for the ZR-1, GTR, and ACR. I have a tendency to take manufacturers claims with a grain of salt.

 

It's going on sale in Japan for 15,750,000 yen wich is 170,000k. It will be more expensive here. Chances are the car will not be reliable. For that money you can have a car that actually looks good.

 

Explain how you came to this conclusion?

 

i really hate when people bring up looks instead of performance. that's all opinions

people think that the 350z's we drive are butt ugly.

i want to see how this car performs before i make my final judgement on it, not "ZOMG ITS SO UGLY, I COULD BUY A FERRARI AND LOOK 10X'S CUTER IN IT!!!!"

 

^Ya well how many people on here actually race their Z? 10% if that?

 

How will it be more expensive here if it's probably not coming out here?

 

(fail). Oh, wait, it isn't even out? Oh, well maybe we should wait for that...seems critical.

 

To me the Spec V is basically the Nismo clubsport pkg. with some carbon front lip/spoiler, Rear seat delete, CC brakes. If I understand correctly, this means the roughly $50K Nismo pkg + $77K GTR = $127K. So this means the carbon lip/spoiler and the CC brakes worth another $50K?? Come on, the nismo pkg prices were riduculous enough already.

I'd much rather built my own Spec V by taking out my back seat, install HKS GT570 kit and call it a day. I highly doubt those carbon aero as well as the CC brakes would make that much of a difference anyways. And that scramble boost features is kinda lame if u ask me.

 

I guess it is true what they say, History does indeed repeat itself.

People seem to not understand the history of the V-Spec. The V-Spec models have always been lightly modified version of the Skyline GT-R models and have usually been perceived as "overpriced". When the R32 Skyline GT-R was first released it carried a base price of about $45,000 USD, while the V-Spec model came with a $53,000 USD price tag. The only differences between the V-Spec and standard GT-R models were the V-Spec came with Brembo brakes and and a retuned ATTESA E-TS system to the Nismo and N1 packages, as well as 17" BBS wheels with 225/45/17 tires all around (the standard GT-R's had 225/50 ZR16). People flamed the V-Spec because they thought it was overpriced but when compared to the standard GT-R, the V-Spec is was noticibly faster and was posting way faster times than the standard GT-R around various tracks, the most important being Tsukuba.

*Tsukuba*

R32 Skyline GT-R: 1:09.98
R32 Skyline GT-R V-Spec: 1:07.45

look what difference better brakes makes in lap times.

I understand that you could mod a standard GTR to be just as fast as a stock Spec-V but then you could apply that type of thinking to any higher performance variant of a car.

I could mod a standard C6 to be faster than a Z06
I could mod a z06 to be faster than a ZR1
i could mod a 911 turbo to be faster than a GT2

and so forth and so forth...


Like i said before, i can't say the Spec-V is "FAIL" until i see what it can really do but on paper it still seems like a better value than the Porsche GT2

 

I agree even the R33 and R34 have Vspec variant. However, they were'nt price at near double of the "Normal" version? Sure it will be slightly faster in lap times. But then again, with slight mod on your normal GTR will make it goes just as fast for way less money. This gen GTR has changed so much in a way that it can't be compared with the previous R32~34 gen. Hence they've drop the Skyline name since it's a global marketed car instead of Japan only model.

 

but this car really is the most modified V-Spec model ever released by nissan. Its also not really certain what a slightly modded GTR can do against a Spec-V because no has tested that theory yet.

but look how much it would cost if you want to mod your gtr to spec-v specs

Amuse Front Diffuser: $2095.00
Amuse GT Wing, High Mount, Dry Carbon: $6720.00
Amuse R1 Titanium Extra STTI Exhaust, Quad Tip: $4995.00
Nismo Suspension, Wheel and Tire Package: $24500.00 (yes it really cost that much)
Nismo Carbon Bucket Seat Package: $21995.00
Endless Mono-6 Big Brake System (Front and Rear): $14850.00

http://www.gt-rr.com/

i wish they would have at least bumped up the power to around 520ps then the price would have been somewhat justified but as i said before i have to see what thi car can do. If it is able to run under a minute around Tsukuba and be able to do what nissan is claiming then it may be worth the money. it still is a better deal than the $200,000 USD Porsche GT2

but maybe im just an optimist that thinks maybe nissan knows what they are doing. i still remember just a couple months year go when people said that with the GTRs weight there was no way it was gonnabe faster than a 911 turbo......seems nissan proved the media wrong

 

your right. for sure it will still be the bang for the buck GT2 Killer. LOL.. But for me since I am a budget tuner guy. I would be happy without all that glam Carbon spoiler/lip. I'd get a set of Amuse/Mine's Coilover and HKS GT570kit with Accessport and call it a day.

 

MY Z IS the fastest car in the world and **** you all, ill put a banana in all of your tail pipes, and your fathers ***, any time you would like to race i am down, spec v s garbage

 

 

Bottom line, a170k nissan omfg. Most of us clowns can't afford a 170k car but if I could that would not be my 1st or even 2nd choice.

 

Thank you, just took the words right out of my mouth..