The Z Roadster
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The Z Roadster
Well, as most of you know by now, a convertible version of the Z will be available in Feb./Mar. '03. I know that we've all been waiting soooo long to get in our Zs, but...
Just wondering if anyone has jumped ship to wait on the soft-top version coming out next year? And...
Does anyone feel that the soft-top will lose some performance in comparison to the hard-top? Seems to me that more weight and drag will lower performance standards on the Z. Is there a way to combat losing performance going from hard to soft-top? Can we expect the same sturdy, high performance Z if it's a roadster?
Thanks for the feedback...
Just wondering if anyone has jumped ship to wait on the soft-top version coming out next year? And...
Does anyone feel that the soft-top will lose some performance in comparison to the hard-top? Seems to me that more weight and drag will lower performance standards on the Z. Is there a way to combat losing performance going from hard to soft-top? Can we expect the same sturdy, high performance Z if it's a roadster?
Thanks for the feedback...
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Soft tops are almost always slower than the coupe version. The 2000 996 Cab was I believe .2 or .4 seconds slower in 0-60 than the coupe. If you want better handling and performance (especially for the track) I would stay away from the convertible unless you want to do additional modifications to increase ridigity and put in a roll cage. If its just for cruising around and fun then a few tenths of a second in 0-60 won't matter for the thrill of cruising with no top.
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Just my 2 cents...but I have no interest in the convertible. I thought the 90-96 Zs looked terrible when they had the top up. Granted, there may be some days where having the top down would be nice, but that won't be most of the time no matter where you live. IMHO, definitely not worth the extra cost and the worry of having someone cut the top, etc.
Also, I'm buying a performance sports car, not a Roadster. To me, that is another category entirely.
Plus, my girlfriend has a convertible and I don't want two in the family.
I am interested to hear others thoughts on this though.
Also, I'm buying a performance sports car, not a Roadster. To me, that is another category entirely.
Plus, my girlfriend has a convertible and I don't want two in the family.
I am interested to hear others thoughts on this though.
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I agree that the roof line is one of the major attributes that makes the 350Z look so good. Without that it might look too much like a bathtub (similar to one of the photoshop pics floating around of the convertible). On the other hand if Nissan decided to offer a convertible hardtop for $40K I would find a way to buy it. However they confirmed it will be a soft-top so that rules that out.
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I hear ya kroams. A hardtop convertible may peak my interest a bit more, but... the lines on this original hardtop Z are so smooth. I'm with you guys. Even though I live in SoCal, there's no other way to go with a performance car other than in it's original hardtop version...
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well said kraZy. Personally I never cared for the Z32 as a convertible top up or down. There is just something less impressive with most cars that have a soft-top up. Now a 360 Modena with the top down is something to stare at but even a Ferrari with the top up is not as impressive (to me) as its coupe brother..
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The added structural components of a convertable are always heavier that the materials that are removed, so right there you will see a loss of performance. Additionally, the drop top version will not be as structurally rigid and will therefore be less accurate in the turns. Again a loss in performance. Will you notice the difference in a track situation? Probably. Will you notice the difference in day to day driving? Maybe, maybe not. If you want the highest performace platform to drive/build from, don't get the convertable. If you want a drop top, it may very well be worth the wait.
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Agree with the posts above.
Depending on how easy Nissan decides to make the top go down and up will decide how much performance you lose. The easier it is to bring the top down the more performance you will lose due to weight. I see an easy 100lbs based on the weight differences from other sports cars available in both convertible and hardtop.
Depending on how easy Nissan decides to make the top go down and up will decide how much performance you lose. The easier it is to bring the top down the more performance you will lose due to weight. I see an easy 100lbs based on the weight differences from other sports cars available in both convertible and hardtop.
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I'm waiting for the convertible and I don't really care about the .2 second loss or whatever it turns out to be. The .2 seconds doesn't do me much when I'm cruising with the top down. As for the looks, I think it will look better as a convertible, although I haven't seen a picture to really back that up. In the case of the 993 I think it looked better as a convertible anyway.
I really wish someone would hurry up with a spy photo of some kind for it.
I really wish someone would hurry up with a spy photo of some kind for it.
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I'm in the market for a roadster around that time so this may very well be an option for me. I also like the new Z4 but I've yet to hear confirmed power/cost numbers...
This "manual" automatic. Is this like the SMT in the MR-S? It's a true manual but with no clutch. I wonder if the auto matic has this feature as well or just has a "manul" mode that gives you the opportunity to keep gear after hitting redline?
That said, I'd prefer a non-powered droptop, like the vette and the MR-S, it's a great way to save weight and though it's nice to have it powered, it really isn't hard to drop a top manually and you get such a nice weight/storage advantage w/it.
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This "manual" automatic. Is this like the SMT in the MR-S? It's a true manual but with no clutch. I wonder if the auto matic has this feature as well or just has a "manul" mode that gives you the opportunity to keep gear after hitting redline?
That said, I'd prefer a non-powered droptop, like the vette and the MR-S, it's a great way to save weight and though it's nice to have it powered, it really isn't hard to drop a top manually and you get such a nice weight/storage advantage w/it.
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I can always feel the "cowl shake" in a convertible, where the structure wobbles around when you go over a bump. It was really bad in a Miata I had for a short period of time. I can even feel it in a Boxster. In My SLK230, I can feel it with the top down, but the car firms up with the hardtop up as it clamps down tight and becomes a structural member (that's why I like convertible hardtops, but talk about added weight...)
So no convertible for me, thanks (even though there will be a few days when it would be nice to have).
So no convertible for me, thanks (even though there will be a few days when it would be nice to have).
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