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specialized5223 Oct 14, 2008 08:04 AM

BRIDE's arrive TODAY! Still no solution for top... :-(
 
I have to Bride Vios Arriving and I still don't know what to do about this top issue.

Any fresh ideas?

Phreakdout Oct 14, 2008 09:10 AM

https://my350z.com/forum/350z-roadst...nctioning.html

So what happened? What did you try regading the harness connection to the to actuator?

I still think your answer is in the service manual. To help, I found the page you need. See page SE-19. The Top operation is interlocked with the passenger seat. You need to bypass this so the top control units gets the signal to open.

Print out this section and take the Z by a custom shop. Tell them what's happening and ask if they can wire it so the top can get the signal.

http://www.myzroadster.com/files/200...0manual/se.pdf

specialized5223 Oct 14, 2008 10:07 AM

Well, I'm going to start experimenting. I'll let you know how it goes man.

Thanks a ton.

reserved Oct 29, 2008 03:42 PM

Success ??????????

specialized5223 Oct 29, 2008 05:29 PM

f course not. but i can tell you that for $70 you can make two extremely strong offset seat brackets for instead of paying $300 for bride offset seat brackets.

I hav a guy who knows his ****.

hes gonna check it out and we'll go from there. I'll let you know what does and or does not work.

gregom Oct 29, 2008 08:27 PM

Theres got to be a way to electronically fake it... maybe its just a simple usage of voltage or lack of that signals this. Have a multimeter and someone who is good with electronics?

specialized5223 Nov 15, 2008 07:29 AM

I have access to such items and people. But not all at once it seems.

My top was recently cut open and it needs to be replaced now so I have to figure this out in a huge ****ing hurry.

reserved Nov 15, 2008 10:55 AM

Talk to Sharif at Forged. I think they did most of the work on Bambam's car.

specialized5223 Nov 18, 2008 07:21 PM

I have no idea who BAMBAM is but I talked to him and he didn't even know such an issue existed. Any other suggestions?

Phreakdout Nov 19, 2008 04:13 AM


Originally Posted by Phreakdout (Post 6422782)
https://my350z.com/forum/350z-roadst...nctioning.html

So what happened? What did you try regading the harness connection to the to actuator?

I still think your answer is in the service manual. To help, I found the page you need. See page SE-19. The Top operation is interlocked with the passenger seat. You need to bypass this so the top control units gets the signal to open.

Print out this section and take the Z by a custom shop. Tell them what's happening and ask if they can wire it so the top can get the signal.

http://www.myzroadster.com/files/200...0manual/se.pdf

Did you ask the shop about this? There are no easy solutions without completing the circuit back to the computer. You might want to look for a wrecked Z and gut the wiring harness and such out of the pass seat if you're concerned about modifying your original. In short, the system has to think the seat is there.

reserved Nov 19, 2008 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by specialized5223 (Post 6575610)
I have no idea who BAMBAM is

He owns the ULTIMATE roadster!!!!!!!
He has a full cage, aftermarket seats, the works!!!!!
PM him; he is a SUPER nice guy.
Hopefully, he can help you.

BamBam Nov 19, 2008 07:30 PM

What is the issue? I do not remember talking with you, but I am guessing your problem is that after replacing the seats your top no longer functions?

We had a similar problem when I put my Cobra's in. If that is what you are talking about Noah from GT-Spec figured the problem out on my car. It's just a bit of wiring and a capacitor if I recall correctly. Basicly you need to fake the signal to the ECU that the passenger seat is in the forward position so it knows it is safe to move the top.

--B


Originally Posted by specialized5223 (Post 6575610)
I have no idea who BAMBAM is but I talked to him and he didn't even know such an issue existed. Any other suggestions?


specialized5223 Nov 20, 2008 03:11 AM

Lol, My bad, I talked to Sharif not you. Does Noah have an account on here?

Phreakdout Nov 20, 2008 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by BamBam (Post 6581040)
What is the issue? I do not remember talking with you, but I am guessing your problem is that after replacing the seats your top no longer functions?

We had a similar problem when I put my Cobra's in. If that is what you are talking about Noah from GT-Spec figured the problem out on my car. It's just a bit of wiring and a capacitor if I recall correctly. Basicly you need to fake the signal to the ECU that the passenger seat is in the forward position so it knows it is safe to move the top.

--B

This would make a great tutorial! (hint, hint)

folgrz Nov 20, 2008 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by specialized5223 (Post 6581837)
Lol, My bad, I talked to Sharif not you. Does Noah have an account on here?

Noahzburnt

reserved Nov 20, 2008 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by folgrz (Post 6582963)
Noahzburnt

I thought his car is a coupe :dunno:

BamBam Nov 20, 2008 06:42 PM

LOL, yea Noah's car is a coupe. He used to work at AAM where I had some of my initial work done on my Roadster (until I got screwed and took my work elsewhere). Anyway, he now works at GTSPEC and yes his account here is Noahzburnt.

I did a search and here is what I could find for you.
https://my350z.com/forum/2126987-post4.html (the link no longer has the wiring diagram)

https://my350z.com/forum/350z-roadst...-roadster.html

This next link has a diagram and even includes a link to the service manual.

https://my350z.com/forum/350z-roadst...nctioning.html

You will also want one of these to get rid of the annoying airbag light.
https://my350z.com/forum/body-interi...ack-stock.html

That should pretty much point you in the right direction for fixing the problem.
Hope that helps.
--B

BamBam Nov 20, 2008 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by Phreakdout (Post 6582003)
This would make a great tutorial! (hint, hint)

I would love to, but honestly while I have really enjoyed modding my car and building something unique to my personality, I have never had the time or skills to do the work myself. I usually put my trust in some of the best 350Z shops around (sometimes unjustly).

In this case I had the seats shipped to the shop and they installed them, only to find out about the switch after the top would not budge. I was lucky that Noah is a hardcore enthusiast and was also an electronics guru in a prior life. So after futzing about with it for a couple of hours and making some calls to his friends he was able to figure it out and build a closed loop circuit with some wires and a fuse/ capacitor or something like that.
--B

specialized5223 Nov 20, 2008 07:19 PM

For this, you are in my prayers.

BamBam Nov 21, 2008 06:08 PM

No problem, sorry I did not see this earlier. I don't spend much time on here anymore except to search on my username, to see if anyone is asking questions or talking about my roadster.

Good luck, I think with a little bit of electrical knowledge, you should be able to get this sorted quickly. For someone who knows what they are doing, it is like a 10 - 15 minute wiring job tops, then just put the wiring under the passenger seat carpet.
Good luck and take care.
--B


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