oil consumption... again
08-15-2010, 07:54 PM
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oil consumption... again
in an attempt to meet NHTSA 30MPG standards, nissan chose an inferior ring pack set... again
... engines consuming oil at an alarming rate
... $12k for short block when all said and done with actuators and sensors added to short block and labor
... get your oil consumption tests done!!!
... engines consuming oil at an alarming rate... $12k for short block when all said and done with actuators and sensors added to short block and labor... get your oil consumption tests done!!!
08-15-2010, 08:58 PM
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not to say "every" engine needs replacment but Ive done a nismo short block replaced @2nd oil change (7k)... its nissans 3rd set of ring packs to try to get it right
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08-15-2010, 09:02 PM
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not anecdotal... I (up until 2 days ago) worked for nissan... there is a bulletin... I don't have it in front of me... nor do I feel the need to look it up... im only informing the masses of a problem... feel free to take it or not
08-15-2010, 09:14 PM
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08-15-2010, 09:57 PM
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dood, I referred to post 8 and you didn't tell me from where the "inferior ring" allegation came.
If there is a consumption issue that is one thing. I'm merely asking you where you obtained the information about Nissan buying inferior rings.
That isn't a rocket science question. That is a "What is your source?" question.
I'm not calling you out but right before me David asked if this was "anecdotal". That means are you perpetuating an intarweb story as opposed to offering something we can hang our hat upon.
no disrespect.
If there is a consumption issue that is one thing. I'm merely asking you where you obtained the information about Nissan buying inferior rings.
That isn't a rocket science question. That is a "What is your source?" question.
I'm not calling you out but right before me David asked if this was "anecdotal". That means are you perpetuating an intarweb story as opposed to offering something we can hang our hat upon.
no disrespect.
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08-16-2010, 06:33 AM
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dood, I referred to post 8 and you didn't tell me from where the "inferior ring" allegation came.
If there is a consumption issue that is one thing. I'm merely asking you where you obtained the information about Nissan buying inferior rings.
That isn't a rocket science question. That is a "What is your source?" question.
I'm not calling you out but right before me David asked if this was "anecdotal". That means are you perpetuating an intarweb story as opposed to offering something we can hang our hat upon.
no disrespect.
If there is a consumption issue that is one thing. I'm merely asking you where you obtained the information about Nissan buying inferior rings.
That isn't a rocket science question. That is a "What is your source?" question.
I'm not calling you out but right before me David asked if this was "anecdotal". That means are you perpetuating an intarweb story as opposed to offering something we can hang our hat upon.
no disrespect.
08-21-2010, 09:20 PM
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there has not been any reports of oil consumption issues with the HR... the ring pack and piston are different in the HR... the change for the VHR was for fuel mileage (less tension)... the updated short blocks have higher tension springs (supposedly chromoly coated... I havent confermed it... no need to take apart a good new motor)
08-22-2010, 05:39 AM
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if it doesn't affect an HR then why the short block replacement on the NISMO (post 7)? other reasons?
HR's have their own set of issues to them, most notably, the crappy bearings and resultant oil temps. Though overall, the remaining internals are superior to the DE's
HR springs are much stronger than DE springs, and yes. They will easily take 11mm of lift, where a DE spring can't even think of that. We just did a set of heads for a VHR build, will have to check if there was anything else notable about the springs
HR's have their own set of issues to them, most notably, the crappy bearings and resultant oil temps. Though overall, the remaining internals are superior to the DE's
HR springs are much stronger than DE springs, and yes. They will easily take 11mm of lift, where a DE spring can't even think of that. We just did a set of heads for a VHR build, will have to check if there was anything else notable about the springs
08-24-2010, 08:01 AM
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if it doesn't affect an HR then why the short block replacement on the NISMO (post 7)? other reasons?
HR's have their own set of issues to them, most notably, the crappy bearings and resultant oil temps. Though overall, the remaining internals are superior to the DE's
HR springs are much stronger than DE springs, and yes. They will easily take 11mm of lift, where a DE spring can't even think of that. We just did a set of heads for a VHR build, will have to check if there was anything else notable about the springs
HR's have their own set of issues to them, most notably, the crappy bearings and resultant oil temps. Though overall, the remaining internals are superior to the DE's
HR springs are much stronger than DE springs, and yes. They will easily take 11mm of lift, where a DE spring can't even think of that. We just did a set of heads for a VHR build, will have to check if there was anything else notable about the springs
08-24-2010, 10:22 AM
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dood, I referred to post 8 and you didn't tell me from where the "inferior ring" allegation came.
If there is a consumption issue that is one thing. I'm merely asking you where you obtained the information about Nissan buying inferior rings.
That isn't a rocket science question. That is a "What is your source?" question.
I'm not calling you out but right before me David asked if this was "anecdotal". That means are you perpetuating an intarweb story as opposed to offering something we can hang our hat upon.
no disrespect.
If there is a consumption issue that is one thing. I'm merely asking you where you obtained the information about Nissan buying inferior rings.
That isn't a rocket science question. That is a "What is your source?" question.
I'm not calling you out but right before me David asked if this was "anecdotal". That means are you perpetuating an intarweb story as opposed to offering something we can hang our hat upon.
no disrespect.
so every one can sleep well knowing its not anecdotal... or to know "my source"
08-25-2010, 07:27 PM
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oil consumption can start @ 2nd oil change... its alot easier to get nissan to approve work then... then customer drives for 500-1000 miles and then the dipstick reading is measured... oil level excessively low then you get whats behind door #1... a new short block... no oil consumption then you are good to go... this bulletin applies to vehicles built before april '10...
now I must go Fast and the Furious is on!!!!
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