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Old 12-01-2007, 08:37 AM
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So the deal is I am looking for new speakers for the Z. I have had MB Quart most all my life.
So I was wanting some opinions from other members. Below are what I am looking at. I am really don't want a harsh sounding Tweeter. So I am liking the JL C5-650. I has a Silk Soft Dome tweeter.
So can I here some input on these listed below.

Thanks,

C



Jl Audio C5-650

http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_c...hp?comp_id=441


MB Quart

http://www.mbquart.com/en/produkte/c...php?nr=pvf_216


Focal 160 KPS

http://www.focal-america.com/
Old 12-01-2007, 12:30 PM
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MB Quart are harsh in the tweeter dept, I just switched to Dynaudio and like them much more.
Old 12-01-2007, 01:17 PM
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if you are going to do jl do at least the xr comp..
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Originally Posted by SpeedRcr
if you are going to do jl do at least the xr comp..
The JL C5-650 are step above the Xr's.
Old 12-01-2007, 07:49 PM
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Is your plan fitting the Focals into the stock door location?

If so, I wonder if the Focal speaker you are considering will fit.

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Originally Posted by Spike100
Is your plan fitting the Focals into the stock door location?

If so, I wonder if the Focal speaker you are considering will fit.

--Spike
Good question. I really don't know. I also looked at the Polk Audio SR6500 today. Real good reviews. The Mounting Depth is 2.55in.
Old 12-01-2007, 10:23 PM
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Why do you mean by the tweeters being "harsh"?
Too loud, too crispy, or just unclear?
Old 12-01-2007, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by cdoxp800
Good question. I really don't know. I also looked at the Polk Audio SR6500 today. Real good reviews. The Mounting Depth is 2.55in.
I’m not sure what Focals are currently available (I bought mine, Focal 165 V Slim, about a year ago)

Focal’s website give these specs for the speakers (Focal 165):

165 V2 - Depth from wall: 68mm (2.7”)
165 V Slim - Depth from wall : 56mm (2.2”)

I was unable to fit the Focal 165 V2 into the stock door position (it was too deep at 2.7”). I was able to easily fit the Focal 165 V Slim into this position. I’m not sure, but I think the maximum depth in the Z’s door for using the stock speaker location is approximately 2.5”.

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Originally Posted by black06z
Why do you mean by the tweeters being "harsh"?
Too loud, too crispy, or just unclear?
you develop listening fatigue during extended play, you will find yourself turning the volume down to compensate for it without realizing why.

I would say they are "Tinney" ...it is the metalic dome tweeters causing it.
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Originally Posted by black06z
Why do you mean by the tweeters being "harsh"?
Too loud, too crispy, or just unclear?
i would say when it hurts your ear just to hear the highs.
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Originally Posted by SuperBlack350z
i would say when it hurts your ear just to hear the highs.
U probably want a silk tweeter.
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Originally Posted by cbr900son
U probably want a silk tweeter.
oh , i already know. i was explaining to him what it was. I have gone silk tweeters before with my Crystal components. I prefer metalllic.
Old 12-02-2007, 07:23 AM
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silk>aluminum or titaniam
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Well right now I debating on putting the rears in with-out the tweeters. I currently owns two sets of MB Quart Premium PCE 216. There about 3 years old.
I will be powering then with a JL 500/5. So there only running at 25 watts per channel. I am just looking for a slight rear fill.
Now the Fronts I am having a hard time with. There are lots of good products out there. The thing that sucks is where I live there is just no place the sales Hi end car audio. So I am unable to listen to any of these brands.

As for Harsh sounding. To me it's a Tinney or to bright. Now this could also be due to a mounting location(s).
So I feel a silk dome would work better fro me. Now since I am in the middle of the install I have yet to play with mounting locations.
I have seen lots of mounting locations for tweeters here on My350. It's great that people share this information and photos. It's all been of a great help.

So all your feedback is great.

Thanks,

c

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i still say its not hte speaker you choose, but where you put it.

also, dont just look at depths when you think about stock location, there are speakres with gerater depths tha can fit in the stock location better than speakers with less depths. beufcaes its not the distance behind the speaker hole that matters, its how BIG the magnet and basket of the speaker is, too big, even a shallow speaker will have an issue with hitting the window that juts down.

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Originally Posted by 16psibrick
i still say its not hte speaker you choose, but where you put it.

also, don't just look at depths when you think about stock location, there are speakers with greater depths that can fit in the stock location better than speakers with less depths. because its not the distance behind the speaker hole that matters, its how BIG the magnet and basket of the speaker is, too big, even a shallow speaker will have an issue with hitting the window that juts down.

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Hey B,

I have looked at all your installs. Must say Sweet.
I am not concerned with the depth. I just don't want the tweeter to be the focal point. I want to try to get the imaging the best I can.

C
Old 12-02-2007, 12:45 PM
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Hertz or Morel.

For affordable:
JL VR or ZR
Old 12-02-2007, 01:28 PM
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wicked CAs makes those door pods and they are a good price. Imaging is about ten times better than stock if you can swing them. Placement really does make a world of difference.
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Ask Nazar to hook you up with pricing for the pods and JL ZR650. I haven't found any authorized dealer who comes close and his pricing is usually awesome. I liked the JL ZR, but went with the Polk SR6500 for a smoother tweeter.
Old 12-03-2007, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by cdoxp800

As for Harsh sounding. To me it's a Tinney or to bright. Now this could also be due to a mounting location(s).

c
Ever heard of dynamatting?
The ring could be just from your car, or whats in it.

Since it seems you are looking for quality over quantity of sound, tuning, in your head unit or otherwise can also make a world of difference. Where your speaker ranges cross ( if they do ) can have the wrong sounds coming out of the right speakers.


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