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I'm trying to find a decent quality single 12" sub and amp combo for under $500. I'm doing a nice little build in my girlfriend's civic, and the only brand ive ever dealt with is Memphis. But I'm lookin for something a little 'prettier' this time for her though, like audiobahn, beacause the sub will be inverted. Currently i'm leaning towards these...
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?...roduct_ID=4158
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?...roduct_ID=4155
Willthis combo work well? Quality sound? Any other product suggestions would be great...and by the way that woofersetc.com is a great site
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?...roduct_ID=4158
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?...roduct_ID=4155
Willthis combo work well? Quality sound? Any other product suggestions would be great...and by the way that woofersetc.com is a great site
Last edited by JonnyRod; Jul 24, 2008 at 08:51 PM.
Depends on the type of music you want to listen to...
Hifonics makes good stuff, I am a fan of Zapco now. Image Dynamics has some high quality subs as does Fi... not sure what you define as pretty... but I'd much rather have high quality functioning equipment...
I am in the process of installing a Zapco 200.2 and a 500.1. Focal fronts and an Image Dynamic IDQ10. The stuff is pricey but woofersetc sells all of the brands but Fi and you can purchase them directly anyway.
It's really just based on your listening preferences though, plus go to a local shop and check out some different sub/amp combos and pick out something you like. What I like and how I tune my system you may find to be horrible...
Hifonics makes good stuff, I am a fan of Zapco now. Image Dynamics has some high quality subs as does Fi... not sure what you define as pretty... but I'd much rather have high quality functioning equipment...
I am in the process of installing a Zapco 200.2 and a 500.1. Focal fronts and an Image Dynamic IDQ10. The stuff is pricey but woofersetc sells all of the brands but Fi and you can purchase them directly anyway.
It's really just based on your listening preferences though, plus go to a local shop and check out some different sub/amp combos and pick out something you like. What I like and how I tune my system you may find to be horrible...
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE run away from the Audiobahn garbage!!!!!!
Diamond Audio D612d2 (IMHO a beautiful aluminum cone and a gorgeous magnet/motor structure):
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?...roduct_ID=2703
Crossfire XP600D:
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?...roduct_ID=5815
This will give you a fantastic setup for $520. Bridge the sub down to 1ohm, and you will be getting a very conservatively rated 600 rms to the single 12" sub. The Diamond D6 line is their more SQ oriented sub, so it will give you very nice sub bass, but is not an overly obnoxiously loud sub. I like these drivers sealed, but ported could be done well too.
Diamond Audio D612d2 (IMHO a beautiful aluminum cone and a gorgeous magnet/motor structure):
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?...roduct_ID=2703
Crossfire XP600D:
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?...roduct_ID=5815
This will give you a fantastic setup for $520. Bridge the sub down to 1ohm, and you will be getting a very conservatively rated 600 rms to the single 12" sub. The Diamond D6 line is their more SQ oriented sub, so it will give you very nice sub bass, but is not an overly obnoxiously loud sub. I like these drivers sealed, but ported could be done well too.
Last edited by StreetOC192; Jul 24, 2008 at 04:17 AM.
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Originally Posted by StreetOC192
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE run away from the Audiobahn garbage!!!!!!
Diamond Audio D612d2 (IMHO a beautiful aluminum cone and a gorgeous magnet/motor structure):
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?...roduct_ID=2703
Crossfire XP600D:
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?...roduct_ID=5815
This will give you a fantastic setup for $520. Bridge the sub down to 1ohm, and you will be getting a very conservatively rated 600 rms to the single 12" sub. The Diamond D6 line is their more SQ oriented sub, so it will give you very nice sub bass, but is not an overly obnoxiously loud sub. I like these drivers sealed, but ported could be done well too.
Diamond Audio D612d2 (IMHO a beautiful aluminum cone and a gorgeous magnet/motor structure):
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?...roduct_ID=2703
Crossfire XP600D:
http://www.woofersetc.com/index.cfm?...roduct_ID=5815
This will give you a fantastic setup for $520. Bridge the sub down to 1ohm, and you will be getting a very conservatively rated 600 rms to the single 12" sub. The Diamond D6 line is their more SQ oriented sub, so it will give you very nice sub bass, but is not an overly obnoxiously loud sub. I like these drivers sealed, but ported could be done well too.
Fi Q12 $259
https://ssl.perfora.net/www.ficaraud...iew.shopscript
hifonics $195 - http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...08D.html#specs
that put you at $454
https://ssl.perfora.net/www.ficaraud...iew.shopscript
hifonics $195 - http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...08D.html#specs
that put you at $454
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Originally Posted by Chi-TownWarrior
Fi Q12 $259
https://ssl.perfora.net/www.ficaraud...iew.shopscript
hifonics $195 - http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...08D.html#specs
that put you at $454
https://ssl.perfora.net/www.ficaraud...iew.shopscript
hifonics $195 - http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...08D.html#specs
that put you at $454
direct from their site
BP power......
We just added the "BP Power" option to both the SSD and Q series subwoofers.
This new option adds a machined aluminum compression plug to the pole which helps channel all of the air under the dustcap around the coil for better cooling. To aid with this increased airflow we also add 6 axial cooling channels in the top plate. Along with increased thermal capacity comes the addition of an extra spider and a changed spider pack.
All of these new features increase power handling from 200-500 Watts depending on the application.
BP power......
We just added the "BP Power" option to both the SSD and Q series subwoofers.
This new option adds a machined aluminum compression plug to the pole which helps channel all of the air under the dustcap around the coil for better cooling. To aid with this increased airflow we also add 6 axial cooling channels in the top plate. Along with increased thermal capacity comes the addition of an extra spider and a changed spider pack.
All of these new features increase power handling from 200-500 Watts depending on the application.
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I've got a Memphis 16-MC1500D:
MClass Series
1 x 750W @ 4 ohms (0.75% THD)
1 x 1500W @ 2 ohms (1% THD)
S/N Ratio: >100dB
Freq. Response: 10Hz ∼ 650Hz (± 1dB)
Same board as Memphis 16-ST1500D
Will this work well with the Q12? Or would the hifonics amp be a better choice for this sub?
MClass Series
1 x 750W @ 4 ohms (0.75% THD)
1 x 1500W @ 2 ohms (1% THD)
S/N Ratio: >100dB
Freq. Response: 10Hz ∼ 650Hz (± 1dB)
Same board as Memphis 16-ST1500D
Will this work well with the Q12? Or would the hifonics amp be a better choice for this sub?
Last edited by JonnyRod; Jul 24, 2008 at 10:32 PM.
Originally Posted by Chi-TownWarrior
Fi Q12 $259
https://ssl.perfora.net/www.ficaraud...iew.shopscript
hifonics $195 - http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...08D.html#specs
that put you at $454
https://ssl.perfora.net/www.ficaraud...iew.shopscript
hifonics $195 - http://www.sonicelectronix.com/item_...08D.html#specs
that put you at $454
Originally Posted by StreetOC192
IMHO I wouldn't power a great sub like the Fi Q with a marginally mediocre amp.
Originally Posted by rs90808
I've got a Memphis 16-MC1500D:
MClass Series
1 x 750W @ 4 ohms (0.75% THD)
1 x 1500W @ 2 ohms (1% THD)
S/N Ratio: >100dB
Freq. Response: 10Hz ∼ 650Hz (± 1dB)
Same board as Memphis 16-ST1500D
Will this work well with the Q12? Or would the hifonics amp be a better choice for this sub?
MClass Series
1 x 750W @ 4 ohms (0.75% THD)
1 x 1500W @ 2 ohms (1% THD)
S/N Ratio: >100dB
Freq. Response: 10Hz ∼ 650Hz (± 1dB)
Same board as Memphis 16-ST1500D
Will this work well with the Q12? Or would the hifonics amp be a better choice for this sub?
Originally Posted by Chi-TownWarrior
That was one of the amps you actually suggested to someone else with a similar setup, plus at the Fi forum that was a recommended amp as well
But then thinking to myself, I'm being kind of hypocritical here I guess because I usually maintain the stance that "a watt is a watt", at least with subs. And I do still stand by that. For sub duties, I usually always say that the coloration from an amp is not noticed. So my thought process when typing the post above #13 would really apply more if the amp were to be paired with a nice set of comps rather than a sub. I concede that although there is a difference with subs that are designed for SQ, I do not believe there is much of a discernible difference in class D monoblocks that would classify one "more SQ" than another. The sheer topological inherent characteristics defies that logic.
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basically i'm sold on the Q12...i need to know what amp would be the BEST choice for this sub in a ported 2.5 cubic foot enclosure.
i also need a 4 channel amp for my mb quart RCE216 6.5's...
i also need a 4 channel amp for my mb quart RCE216 6.5's...
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