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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 11:11 PM
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what's a good 2-way aftermarket alarm to get?

also what happens to the stock alarm if i get an aftermarket one? will the stock be disable or can they work in conjunction with one other for extra protection? my last car didn't have a stock alarm so i not sure what happens to the stock alarm when installing an aftermarket one.
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 04:16 AM
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I've been in the market for a good system too, and JmanZ clued me in to the one he's got, from a company called Compustar. You can get it with pretty much all the bells and whistles, remote start, windows, etc, and a pager that lets you know if your car's being screwed with as long as you're within 6000 feet. I emailed them for info on dealers and got an answer yesterday. this weekend i'm going to head down and look into getting one. I know there are a few other folks running around this site who have them too. might be worth looking into. or give me a week and i'll tell you if i got one and what i think of it.
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 06:09 AM
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Chuck,

Also keep me updated. I been looking around every since someone tried to break into my car.
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 06:18 AM
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If you don't won't auto start, go with the Viper series, 690, I believe. It is a two-way also.

Also, compustar is the only legal auto start in America. I have seen cars, and Z's drive off by themselves due to operator error. So be careful on getting an auto start.

I got the 690 series installed, with 2 pizo sirens inside, 2 sirens outside, proximity sensor, backup battery, door/trunk unlock for $500 installed.

GL!

And your question regarding the OEM alarm. They normally just disable that, however, you can get it hooked up if you want it back on.

Some can even use both of the alarms, ect
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 06:35 AM
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sounds good. keep me updated on the compustar. thanks.
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 03:46 AM
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I had the Viper 791XV installed in my Z. It has remote start, windows down "AND" up, remote hatch open, remote gas door open and the stock alarm works alongside my Viper and a few other features that I had installed. It also comes with a two way pager. All this for $600 This alarm rocks! Check it out and see what other things it can do.
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 02:39 PM
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How does the fob work with an aftermarket alarm? Do you have to carry 2 fobs? That would suck. Anyone have a high end alarm that replaces the Nissan fob all together?
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by Beaker02
How does the fob work with an aftermarket alarm? Do you have to carry 2 fobs? That would suck. Anyone have a high end alarm that replaces the Nissan fob all together?
you don't need to use the OEM alarm keyfob. The aftermarket alarm will bypass the OEM one.

Hornet, be careful on that auto start, there is no safety net for that thing. You leave it in gear and your screwed if you try and start it. BE CAREFUL, especially when you valet or car wash, and especially the dealer, ect.


$600 installed for all that. Where at? The 791 retails for $599 installed here and thats the basic stuff.
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 09:30 PM
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There's no such thing as only one company being autostart legal. ANY autostart that follows correct procedure is legal, meaning as long as it goes through the appropriate series of safety checks, you can install it on a manual car.

The safety check and start sequence usually involves letting the clutch out while the car is running, turning the car off, turning the key on again, having the e-brake up, etc. It can vary, but trust me, if you actually go through this sequence when shutting your car off each time and you STILL manage to put it in gear afterwards, you deserve to run your car through a wall Any deviation from the sequence on parking it and the car will refuse to autostart next time around.

If your alarm allows you to start the car without the above safety checks and sequences, stay far away from it as you WILL eventually plow it into a wall.
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 09:37 PM
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I've seen the compustars on eBay but I need someone to install the darn thing! I'd even be willing to drive down to a NorthEastern state if I could find a reputable installer with 350Z (preferrably Roadster) experience!
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Old Dec 3, 2003 | 10:10 PM
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hey guys.for all those with remote starts/MT. find the nuetral wire (brn/yel) at the ECU(above pass kick) and have your installer hook this up with a diode the "ground safety wire/handbrake) of the alarm.
this wire sense ground when in nueltral. most alarm will not crank without a ground signal, or use a relay to do it.

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Originally posted by MacGyver
There's no such thing as only one company being autostart legal. ANY autostart that follows correct procedure is legal, meaning as long as it goes through the appropriate series of safety checks, you can install it on a manual car.

The safety check and start sequence usually involves letting the clutch out while the car is running, turning the car off, turning the key on again, having the e-brake up, etc. It can vary, but trust me, if you actually go through this sequence when shutting your car off each time and you STILL manage to put it in gear afterwards, you deserve to run your car through a wall Any deviation from the sequence on parking it and the car will refuse to autostart next time around.

If your alarm allows you to start the car without the above safety checks and sequences, stay far away from it as you WILL eventually plow it into a wall.
In my state and I am sure many others, COMPUSTAR is the only authorized alarm for standard transmission auto starts.
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 11:19 AM
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How can a car left in gear drive itself with an auto start? I mean if I just release the clutch without pressing the gas the car would just stall. So, if a car was in gear and remote started, it should just stall.
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 02:34 PM
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Originally posted by alphared
How can a car left in gear drive itself with an auto start? I mean if I just release the clutch without pressing the gas the car would just stall. So, if a car was in gear and remote started, it should just stall.
I read a story, in fact two of them where the Z was brought to a car wash and they auto started it by mistake, left it in gear and it launched into the side of another car.

Thats why dealers are not suppose to be installing these on manual cars. Its a risk you take.
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by zand02max
I read a story, in fact two of them where the Z was brought to a car wash and they auto started it by mistake, left it in gear and it launched into the side of another car.

Thats why dealers are not suppose to be installing these on manual cars. Its a risk you take.
Whats the link for this story?
Z also comes in automatic.

Not saying that its imposible, but even if you sat in the car. Clutch in and put it to first and then drop the clutch, your car is not going to drive forward more than a foot before it stalls. Without adding gas the Z will stall as soon as the clutch is dropped.
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Old Dec 4, 2003 | 06:41 PM
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Originally posted by alphared
Whats the link for this story?
Z also comes in automatic.

Not saying that its imposible, but even if you sat in the car. Clutch in and put it to first and then drop the clutch, your car is not going to drive forward more than a foot before it stalls. Without adding gas the Z will stall as soon as the clutch is dropped.
Can't seem to find the link, but I'll keep searching. I wouldn't do the auto start on a manual, juts risking damaging your car, but hey if thats what you want, then have at it.

Just answer me this, why is it, no dealers will not install auto start on a manual? Maybe the shady ones will or the ones that don't care what happens to your car.
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Old Dec 5, 2003 | 12:26 AM
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Originally posted by zand02max
Just answer me this, why is it, no dealers will not install auto start on a manual? Maybe the shady ones will or the ones that don't care what happens to your car.
Don't have an answer for that since I don't know any dealers that will install auto start on any cars. All the ones I know will only install Factory equipment and don't know any dealership that offers factory remote start.
Also, wouldn't the e brake prevent it from moving?
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Old Dec 5, 2003 | 07:13 AM
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When I said dealer, I meant stereo shop dealer, sorry for the confusion
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Old Dec 5, 2003 | 07:46 AM
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To answer the question "Wouldnt it just stall?" the answer is NO. The reason.....the battery is turing the engine over and not the fact that the car is running. Are you following this? A car starter is very powerful and will most definitely serge the car forward if left in gear. It's not pretty. If the e-brake is up hard enough, I dont know what would happen then. I guess something would just brake.
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