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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 03:51 PM
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I had originally planned on getting the Cusco sway bars to compliment my coilover setup but had the idea this morning to maybe get the Whiteline ones to save some money.

Cusco Solution

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Sway Front: $350
Sway Rear: $350

750 X 1.25 = $875

(Shipping and Customs Fee?)
So around $1000 to get them to my door maybe a bit more.

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Whiteline Solution

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Sway Front: $220
Sway Rear: $220

$440!

Thats a very large price difference and I doubt most people could tell the difference performance wise.

Note: I think the HotChickz sway bars are too hard, how much stronger were they 60-80%?

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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 05:38 PM
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Check 350evo sways, they are a lot cheaper then cusco. Also hotchkis (not hot chicks) go for $255 at hopupracing.com and they are adjustible so you can run them on the soft setting. I don't know anything about the whitelines, what rates do they have? also are they adjustible? As for customs, ask who ever is selling it to write down the value of the sways to like US$100 and you shouldn't pay a cent of tax.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 05:58 PM
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I have been concidering getting the Whiteline swaybars for a while now. Though, I'm getting the springs instead and not sure if I'll need the sway-bars. Will see once I have the springs and have put them thrtough their paces.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by nuff
Check 350evo sways, they are a lot cheaper then cusco. Also hotchkis (not hot chicks) go for $255 at hopupracing.com and they are adjustible so you can run them on the soft setting. I don't know anything about the whitelines, what rates do they have? also are they adjustible? As for customs, ask who ever is selling it to write down the value of the sways to like US$100 and you shouldn't pay a cent of tax.

I dont really want a US domestic product. But for anyone else who wants another cheap alternative... You also have to add shipping as well and they are large so shipping could be a couple hundred dollars. And I doubt these would be any better than Whiteline. Whiteline develops racing setups as well and has been doing it for years.

I will continue to refer to them as HotChickz

Yep in my post i did mention they are adjustable, the front is 10-40% stiffer than stock and I dont know anything about the rear yet. I will phone them up and get some details.

I noted customs etc as those are the taxes and its up to the user if they want to get around it or not. I do get them to mark the price down for this reason.

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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 06:13 PM
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Originally posted by nuff
Check 350evo sways, they are a lot cheaper then cusco. Also hotchkis (not hot chicks) go for $255 at hopupracing.com and they are adjustible so you can run them on the soft setting. I don't know anything about the whitelines, what rates do they have? also are they adjustible? As for customs, ask who ever is selling it to write down the value of the sways to like US$100 and you shouldn't pay a cent of tax.
it really depends on which shipping company you use, some will charge import duties even on $50, but some will let you go even over $500
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 06:19 PM
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Originally posted by DavidM
I have been concidering getting the Whiteline swaybars for a while now. Though, I'm getting the springs instead and not sure if I'll need the sway-bars. Will see once I have the springs and have put them thrtough their paces.

Now that ive had my coilovers for a while I can tell that there is still a little room for improvement in regard to body roll & chasis movement. This is where I think the sways will work perfectly. But the amount is very small so i think only a bit stiffer should be perfect. Im not sure others would bother improving on this unless they were going to the track, but Im after the perfect neutral handling setup.

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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 06:36 PM
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Quote from website:

"Whiteline Automotive purchased the sway bar manufacturing division and retained the Selby's Swaybars brand continuing a proud 30 year history."
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 08:13 PM
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Murray, given the fact you have the Cusco coilovers my suggestion would be to stay with the Cusco brand. They have rather different spring and sway bar rates than other manufactuers and I believe that's because the two products were meant to work together.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by apsilon
Murray, given the fact you have the Cusco coilovers my suggestion would be to stay with the Cusco brand. They have rather different spring and sway bar rates than other manufactuers and I believe that's because the two products were meant to work together.

Thats a fair point.

What if I find out specific details about the two and do a comparison with the figures. And then we can make a call on this?

I noticed on TV that the V8 super cars use half of the front spring rate in the rear.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 10:20 PM
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I wouldn't pay much attention to the super cars, they're a specially constructed race car so it's hard to draw many parallels to a road going car.

By all means check out your options. I just thought it was interesting that Cusco are softer in the rear than most of the competition yet their rear sway is stiffer than most of the competition. Got to mean something.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 10:47 PM
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Originally posted by apsilon
I wouldn't pay much attention to the super cars, they're a specially constructed race car so it's hard to draw many parallels to a road going car.

By all means check out your options. I just thought it was interesting that Cusco are softer in the rear than most of the competition yet their rear sway is stiffer than most of the competition. Got to mean something.


I wasnt drawing any conclusons just thought it was interesting.

Yep I agree with you totally, but I'll just check the figures, because the 350z stock has softer in the rear doesnt it? So hopefully the Whiteline gear is setup to handle this, but even if I do find out its pretty close, I think I would still like the peace of mind knowing that they are all designed to work with each other.

Bummer on the price but it would be a better setup for sure.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 11:11 PM
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The stock 350z is harder in the rear. I know the hotchkin's springs are softer in the rear and they also have stiffer sways in the back.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 11:21 PM
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Thanks for the info Nuff.
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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 11:38 PM
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The stock rates are
front 310 lbs/in
rear 350 lbs/in
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Old Jun 15, 2004 | 03:20 AM
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Cusco Sway Bars

35mm front
22mm rear
Front sway bar has two settings of 20% and 37% stiffer then stock.
Rear sway bar is 73% stiffer then stock.
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 02:03 AM
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You can get the Cusco sways from the US for ~$728 delivered.

Not bad!
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 06:06 AM
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Hotchkis sways, sort of similar to cusco on middle settings and way cheaper, the shipping should be less as well since they are quiet light. I got quoted US$175 for shippment of 350evo sways and they are some of the heaviest.

Front 1 3/8" (35MM) Hollow (Bar Weight 13.5lbs)
3 Position Adjustable
Rate Increase over stock
+9%,+32%,+63%

Rear 15/16"(24mm) Hollow (bar weight 5.5lbs)
3 Position Adjustable
Rate Increase over stock
+54%,+92%,+146%
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 10:22 PM
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I remeber reading about the Hotchkis sway bars and they are considerably lighter than stock. I cannot remember how much but I recall it was a very significant % difference lighter. And if memory serves me correctly, I think the stock sway was around 30kg, so the weight saving is significant (6kg vs 30kg).
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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 11:17 PM
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Got this back from Whiteline:
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Our swaybars for the 350Z chassis provide an increase in roll stiffness of 30-35% as shown below:

Front BNF33Z = increase of about 30%
Rear BNR30Z = increase of about 35%
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But these are adjustable so ive asked for further detail?

Their website says:

Front: OE Swaybar plus 10-40%
Rear: Doesnt specify.

Will post more when I get a response.


KY350:
If they are they much lighter then thats a worthy mod.

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Old Jun 17, 2004 | 11:29 PM
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I think the best bang for your buck handling wise is springs and sways. And if you chose Whiteline it would be soo cheap.

Front Springs: 145.45
Rear Springs: 145.45
Front Sway: 220.00
Rear Sway: 220.00

Thats $730!! Bargain!
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