Wrecked Z on news.....
Just saw the 7 news and there was a Z out near Quakers Hill that was ripped to bits.
Hope it wasnt anyone on the list....actually its unfortunate as the occupants died.
Young guy apparantly 20 odd...
Mike
Hope it wasnt anyone on the list....actually its unfortunate as the occupants died.
Young guy apparantly 20 odd...
Mike
Yeah the footage was unbelievable....he would have been absolutely hammering! Not good at all !
By the way wasnt there are young guy that joined not that long ago that was from around that location?
By the way wasnt there are young guy that joined not that long ago that was from around that location?
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That's just tragic news.
I believe that all young drivers buying a high performance car should undergo a mandatory advanced driver training course. That way they can do their crap in a controlled environment and at the same time learn how a car reacts when out of control and what you can do to correct it.
Just yesterday, I send the Z into a left hand corner way too fast (on purpose to get it sideways). Went into the corner faster than I really wanted to and had the car at 45 degrees across the road in oversteer. Applied opposite lock and got a tank slapper, now facing 45 degrees the other way. Then got it straight and no damage done to anyone/thing. But it goes to show that the Z is not progressive when oversteering and would be very easy for an inexperienced driver to totally lose control.
I believe that all young drivers buying a high performance car should undergo a mandatory advanced driver training course. That way they can do their crap in a controlled environment and at the same time learn how a car reacts when out of control and what you can do to correct it.
Just yesterday, I send the Z into a left hand corner way too fast (on purpose to get it sideways). Went into the corner faster than I really wanted to and had the car at 45 degrees across the road in oversteer. Applied opposite lock and got a tank slapper, now facing 45 degrees the other way. Then got it straight and no damage done to anyone/thing. But it goes to show that the Z is not progressive when oversteering and would be very easy for an inexperienced driver to totally lose control.
It is very tragic.
How about we classify them as inexperienced drivers... as age isnt always the determining factor in experience.
And 20-odd could be anything up to 29 for all we know.
How about we classify them as inexperienced drivers... as age isnt always the determining factor in experience.
And 20-odd could be anything up to 29 for all we know.
Last edited by mchapman; Jun 27, 2004 at 04:24 AM.
As soon as cars are in the media ie: wrx, 200sx etc and you have a police authority spokeson say "Performance cars like the Z are like a ticking time bomb in the hand of inexperienced drivers and .. blah blah"
You watch. If the Z is in the news often the insurance companies will use this as an excuse.
It is all perception. Not many WRX STi's get stolen now a days but still costs you $2500 /pa and $7000 excess with Just Cars.
You watch. If the Z is in the news often the insurance companies will use this as an excuse.
It is all perception. Not many WRX STi's get stolen now a days but still costs you $2500 /pa and $7000 excess with Just Cars.
I've found it depends a lot on the road camber. eg I took off from a T instersection not long ago on a road with off camber and the tail swung well out and it didn't require much throttle at all. VDC/TC turned off of course. Speaking of which I find VDC a tad dangerous. On several occasions where I've hung the tail out and countered at the same time VDC came in which causes an over correction. Twice that's almost seen me mount the gutter. It works rather well if you don't try and correct the slide yourself but for anyone who does it becomes a hinderance.
OK Harry. See other threads to date.
Apsilon - your comment explains a similar incident I had on an on-ramp in the wet - gave it heaps in a straight line and nearly got the concrete.
The VDC is for *******.
Love the feel of a nice drift on the big roundabouts (on the distributor for tiler) - in the wet I often do a 360 for the feel with the VDC off.
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Apsilon - your comment explains a similar incident I had on an on-ramp in the wet - gave it heaps in a straight line and nearly got the concrete.
The VDC is for *******.
Love the feel of a nice drift on the big roundabouts (on the distributor for tiler) - in the wet I often do a 360 for the feel with the VDC off.
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