ITE v. T2 differences
ITE v. T2 differences
What are the differences in rules for 350Z prep for ITE v. T2? Is the 350Z even competitive in ITE? I imagine it'd do well in a 12+ hour race since the car is reliable on track... Discuss...
What cars would be classed with the Z in ITE? Seems like a tough category. Awd and turboed cars are allowed in ITE too I think. Lots of modifications allowed too. Although the Grand Am Z's did ok against the field, which would be about as competitive a car as you could bring to ITE.
OTOH, If you could only have a track model with NISMO springs and sways would that be a very competitive car in T2?
Wish I could contribute more, but I'm just getting into racing and classes.
OTOH, If you could only have a track model with NISMO springs and sways would that be a very competitive car in T2?
Wish I could contribute more, but I'm just getting into racing and classes.
The differences between ITE and T2 are the following:
ITE: This is a regional class only but it is not a nationally recognized regional class. In other words there is not common set of rules for the class, each SCCA region has their own rules, and some regions do not even have this class or it has another name (ITX, Super Production etc). Most regions that run an ITE type of class have very similar rules, basically, car has to run on DOT race tires and cannot be tube frame, so you see a lot of old World Challenge cars and other productions cars that just dont fit anywhere. The Z could be competitive in this, question is how much do you want to spend? Basically the sky is the limit when it comes to prepping the car for ITE, you will be up against some very fast Corvettes, Porsche GT3 Cup Cars etc.
T2: This is a SCCA National Level Class. T2 is run at both the local regional level and the National level with the same set of rules, since T2 is a National Class, there are 8 Divisional Championships (one for each SCCA Division in the US) and a National Championship (SCCA Runoffs).
The Philosophy of the Touring classes is to race "Showroom" type cars that have a limited number of modifications, and cars performances are equalized by weight, restrictor plates and allowing specific cars/models different modifications above the basic T2 rules.
The basic T2 rules allow you to change shocks, differential, cat-back exhaust, wheels, brake pads, tires (DOT Type R with a maximum width) re-program ECU, change wheel wheels, use stainless brake lines, change fluids (brake fluid, oil etc), airfilter, balance and blue-print motor, remove AC and safety requirements (roll-cage, drivers seat changed to race seat, fire extinguisher, 6-point safety harness, window net etc). You can get the full rulebook on-line at SCCA.org. Beyond the standard allowable changes, the 350Z specifically is allowed Nismo P/S cooler and Oil Cooler, Nissan Compeitition Suspension kit (Springs and Swaybars with adjustable end-links) and 8.5" wheels front/rear (.5" wider than stock). Also, Track Model car is what is speced so you can run the Track Model Brembo Brakes and Aero kit. You can build a car with the minimum changes and maybe spend 5-6k but you wont be competitive at a National Level or at the Runoffs. To be competitive at the Runoffs expect to spend aprox $15-20k plus the cost of the car.
Ask me how I know? Because I am building one right now and keep writing more and more checks....
ITE: This is a regional class only but it is not a nationally recognized regional class. In other words there is not common set of rules for the class, each SCCA region has their own rules, and some regions do not even have this class or it has another name (ITX, Super Production etc). Most regions that run an ITE type of class have very similar rules, basically, car has to run on DOT race tires and cannot be tube frame, so you see a lot of old World Challenge cars and other productions cars that just dont fit anywhere. The Z could be competitive in this, question is how much do you want to spend? Basically the sky is the limit when it comes to prepping the car for ITE, you will be up against some very fast Corvettes, Porsche GT3 Cup Cars etc.
T2: This is a SCCA National Level Class. T2 is run at both the local regional level and the National level with the same set of rules, since T2 is a National Class, there are 8 Divisional Championships (one for each SCCA Division in the US) and a National Championship (SCCA Runoffs).
The Philosophy of the Touring classes is to race "Showroom" type cars that have a limited number of modifications, and cars performances are equalized by weight, restrictor plates and allowing specific cars/models different modifications above the basic T2 rules.
The basic T2 rules allow you to change shocks, differential, cat-back exhaust, wheels, brake pads, tires (DOT Type R with a maximum width) re-program ECU, change wheel wheels, use stainless brake lines, change fluids (brake fluid, oil etc), airfilter, balance and blue-print motor, remove AC and safety requirements (roll-cage, drivers seat changed to race seat, fire extinguisher, 6-point safety harness, window net etc). You can get the full rulebook on-line at SCCA.org. Beyond the standard allowable changes, the 350Z specifically is allowed Nismo P/S cooler and Oil Cooler, Nissan Compeitition Suspension kit (Springs and Swaybars with adjustable end-links) and 8.5" wheels front/rear (.5" wider than stock). Also, Track Model car is what is speced so you can run the Track Model Brembo Brakes and Aero kit. You can build a car with the minimum changes and maybe spend 5-6k but you wont be competitive at a National Level or at the Runoffs. To be competitive at the Runoffs expect to spend aprox $15-20k plus the cost of the car.
Ask me how I know? Because I am building one right now and keep writing more and more checks....
ITE vs T2
Good summary Alex...how's that hodrod commin? Where's the pix? Is it going to be ready for this years Runoffs? Last time at MidOhio...next year moving to Heartland Park.
John - put a cage in that thing and enter it in T2. You'll have a blast
ITE is kinda like "run what you brung" so you'll see some 800hp cars and you'll see some that are less but don't have a good fit in another class
John - put a cage in that thing and enter it in T2. You'll have a blast
ITE is kinda like "run what you brung" so you'll see some 800hp cars and you'll see some that are less but don't have a good fit in another class
Jason, car should be done soon, cage is done, car is at the paint shop getting the cage painted and the rest of the car painted. Should be done around the end of this month. My SHOCKS FINALLY ARRIVED!!!! Have not gone out to the shop to see them yet but will go out today. As soon as the car is done at the bodyshop, should be 3-5 days to finish the car, so I am planning on mid-February. First National Race weekend in March 19-20 so we are working to have the car done and on the road several weeks before this so I can drive the car and put some miles on it.
You wont hear any of us West Coasters be unhappy about the move from Mid-Ohio. I always liked the track and the facility but it is so far away and the weather was always iffy when I was out there (I hate racing in the rain...) Much rather have to put sunblock on than bundle up with warm cloths, a rain coat and an umbrella!
You shouldnt be too dissapointed, at least its within a long days drive of where you are at. Not 3.5 days to Ohio for us!
You wont hear any of us West Coasters be unhappy about the move from Mid-Ohio. I always liked the track and the facility but it is so far away and the weather was always iffy when I was out there (I hate racing in the rain...) Much rather have to put sunblock on than bundle up with warm cloths, a rain coat and an umbrella!
You shouldnt be too dissapointed, at least its within a long days drive of where you are at. Not 3.5 days to Ohio for us!
Re: ITE vs T2
Originally posted by Jason H
John - put a cage in that thing and enter it in T2. You'll have a blast
John - put a cage in that thing and enter it in T2. You'll have a blast
Originally posted by Jason H
ITE is kinda like "run what you brung" so you'll see some 800hp cars and you'll see some that are less but don't have a good fit in another class
ITE is kinda like "run what you brung" so you'll see some 800hp cars and you'll see some that are less but don't have a good fit in another class
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