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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 12:15 PM
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Default Adjustable front camber arms. What do you suggest?

So I think my next mod will be the addition of front adjustable camber arms and I'm here to ask for pros and cons from various brands. First up:

350evo kit: beautiful piece of kit but PRICEY!! I'm not sure the price can be justified if the car they go on only sees the track 2-3 days a month. Group buy anyone?

Kinetix kit: limited adjustability but the price is considerably cheaper then the above kit. Anyone use this kit for track events? How easy are they to adjust?

Stillen kit: not released yet but they look nice. Of course knowing Stillen they'll be pricey.

Anyone I missed?

Thanks for the input...
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 12:33 PM
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350EVO has my vote! Don't believe I could have made a better decision.
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Another vote for the evo's. I couldn't be happier with mine. 2-3 track events a month is a lot of stress on control arms. I sleep better at night knowing I have spent the extra $$ in this area. The adjustment is super easy. I literally do it at the track in less than 10 minutes.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by daveh
Another vote for the evo's. I couldn't be happier with mine. 2-3 track events a month is a lot of stress on control arms. I sleep better at night knowing I have spent the extra $$ in this area. The adjustment is super easy. I literally do it at the track in less than 10 minutes.

I thought that's what you'd say.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 03:02 PM
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I would have gotten the 350evo arms if I was ballin', but I went with the Cuscos from Adam @ Z1Auto. They worked out great at the track. DO NOT get the Kinetix camber arms. Just look at them and that should tell you the story.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Rickdogg
I would have gotten the 350evo arms if I was ballin', but I went with the Cuscos from Adam @ Z1Auto. They worked out great at the track. DO NOT get the Kinetix camber arms. Just look at them and that should tell you the story.

How easy are the Cusco's to adjust at the track? Is the degree angle
(-/+degree) etched on the bottom side of the slides. Are the allen head bolts easy to access? (with/without the tire on)

Thanks
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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 05:08 PM
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350EVO's no question
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350Evos

No contest in my opinion...
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I have been using the Performance Nissan adjustable front upper control arms and been very pleased with them
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The arms Performance Nissan "was" selling looked great too. Don't know why they aren't offered on their site anymore......
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Old Mar 28, 2005 | 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by EnthuZ
The arms Performance Nissan "was" selling looked great too. Don't know why they aren't offered on their site anymore......
Oh yeah...I forgot about their control arms. Maybe I'll give Jason a call on them.
I love the 350evo's but their so damn EXPENSIVE!!
I'm really surprised Nismo doesn't sell a set yet considering how many people lower their cars.
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Another vote for the 350EVO's.
Absolutley the best in all aspects....including easing the mind on their construction, quality, durabilty, ease of adjustment, range of adjustment, looks.........ok I will leave it at that.
Yes they more of an investment than other brands but....
The other brands on the market are all weleded steel tube designs which are much cheaper to manufacture.
(There is a reason we changed our arm design and went to a machined arm...and it wasnt the price!!!)
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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by dwnshift
Another vote for the 350EVO's.
Absolutley the best in all aspects....including easing the mind on their construction, quality, durabilty, ease of adjustment, range of adjustment, looks.........ok I will leave it at that.
Yes they more of an investment than other brands but....
The other brands on the market are all weleded steel tube designs which are much cheaper to manufacture.
(There is a reason we changed our arm design and went to a machined arm...and it wasnt the price!!!)
Cheers
BJ@350EVO.com
Well what else would say BJ!!
Hey, any discounts on the camber arms to NASA members?!
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Default 350Evo arms ease of street/track use

I have a new set of 350evo arms and really like the ease of use at the track.

My local alignmemt tech (with the fancy new alighment machine) set the front wheels and ties up for street neg camber and marked the 350evo arms with white touch up paint at that position. He then did a 2.75 neg camber for my track wheels/tires (17"CCW's with 255 Toyo RA's, and then marked that spot with touch up paint.

He then showed me his trusty professional control arm quick adjustment tool. He told me to get one nad put in my Track tool box. It is a simple carpenters squeeze clamp - looks like a calk gun mechanism. I got one at Big Lots for $2.19. $3.99 at Sears for you Craftsman folks.

At the track, I pop off the street wheels/tires as usual, lossen the 350evo control arms nuts, slip on the carpenters squeeze clamp, squeeze the clamp until the 2.75 neg paint slot in lined up (usually no more than 2 squeezes), and tighten the nuts. Done! (also do the Koni adjust at this time before putting the track wheels/tires on) Very quick and easy with the 350evo control arms. At the track, time is money and it sure is nice to do the control arm camber switch quickly.
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Thanks tomzz for the advice on the squeeze clamp. Is it as easy to reposition back to the original street camber setup? The touch up paint's a nice 'touch' as well.
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can someone explain what makes the 350evo parts worth more than twice the price of the kinetix? i'm not saying they're not, but its hard for me to understand. yes, one is tubular steel welded, and the other is a pretty cnc machined piece. does anyone have any objective data indicating the kinetix have a strength problem? from the pics, the only thing i think i can tell is that with the kinetix, in order to adjust the camber, you'd have to unscrew the hub-side bolt to spin the heim-jointed piece. is that the case? since they can only get -1.5 (at stock ride height), i'd probably end up leaving it at min all the time. while the track-side adjustability would be great, that sure is a huge price difference for it IMO.

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Originally Posted by amolaver
can someone explain what makes the 350evo parts worth more than twice the price of the kinetix? i'm not saying they're not, but its hard for me to understand. yes, one is tubular steel welded, and the other is a pretty cnc machined piece. does anyone have any objective data indicating the kinetix have a strength problem? from the pics, the only thing i think i can tell is that with the kinetix, in order to adjust the camber, you'd have to unscrew the hub-side bolt to spin the heim-jointed piece. is that the case? since they can only get -1.5 (at stock ride height), i'd probably end up leaving it at min all the time. while the track-side adjustability would be great, that sure is a huge price difference for it IMO.
All I have to say is look at them Kinetix = ugly and you can tell that they made them for nothing.
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Originally Posted by amolaver
can someone explain what makes the 350evo parts worth more than twice the price of the kinetix? i'm not saying they're not, but its hard for me to understand. yes, one is tubular steel welded, and the other is a pretty cnc machined piece. does anyone have any objective data indicating the kinetix have a strength problem? from the pics, the only thing i think i can tell is that with the kinetix, in order to adjust the camber, you'd have to unscrew the hub-side bolt to spin the heim-jointed piece. is that the case? since they can only get -1.5 (at stock ride height), i'd probably end up leaving it at min all the time. while the track-side adjustability would be great, that sure is a huge price difference for it IMO.
With the 350evo control arms there is no cutting of the cars fender liner, unlike many of the competitors. Higher quality part, think of it this way, do you want to trust something as vital to the suspension and its ability to survive (your safety)in its enviroment to a jig welded tubeing? Not me..
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it seems like alot of people are asking about camber arms lately. maybe BJ can start a group buy.
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Originally Posted by mpowers
With the 350evo control arms there is no cutting of the cars fender liner, unlike many of the competitors. Higher quality part, think of it this way, do you want to trust something as vital to the suspension and its ability to survive (your safety)in its enviroment to a jig welded tubeing? Not me..
Two comments. 1) I didn't know about cutting the fender liners - is this something specific to the kinetix arms or ? Others? 2) I don't debate that the 350evo parts are much nicer looking, and from what I can see, they look easier to adjust. As far as jig-welded tubing being strong enough? Since many a tube frame race car's entire chassis is built this way, I don't personally see that as a negative by itself. To each his own. Looks are != performance, at least not necessarily.
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