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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 09:43 AM
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Fritzman, I am brining the Cusco arms to the shop to install next week w/ alignment, what should I ask him to do if I want to have 2 pre-set camber setting?

After the alignment is done (assuming I asked him to set the track setting), what is the instruction on how to adjust it back to street setting? what tools do I need and is it something I can do in my garage with accuracy or do I need the shop to do it for me with the alignment machine?

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Gary, the cusco arms only have something like 4 possible adjustments. Imagine four settings with 1 being the least camber (pulled out all the way), and the 4th setting having the most negative camber (pushed in all the way). For the street, I run setting 2 which is -1 with my spring setup, and then for the track I run the 4th setting which is -2.9.

Adjustment is provided by sliding the lower plate along the fixed upper plate. As you move the lower plate you'll notice that at preset increments, different bolt holes will line up to allow you to bolt the two plates together. Study the arms before installing them to see how they work.

To change settings, you simply need a hex key (5mm I think). Make sure there's no grit in the upper plate track otherwise the plates won't be able to slide their full length which prevents the holes from lining up.

The only alignment I'd consider is have the toe adjusted for a specific setting. Personally I did it at max camber for the most predicatabililty when on the track.

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Old Feb 18, 2007 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by FritzMan
Gary, the cusco arms only have something like 4 possible adjustments. Imagine four settings with 1 being the least camber (pulled out all the way), and the 4th setting having the most negative camber (pushed in all the way). For the street, I run setting 2 which is -1 with my spring setup, and then for the track I run the 4th setting which is -2.9.

Adjustment is provided by sliding the lower plate along the fixed upper plate. As you move the lower plate you'll notice that at preset increments, different bolt holes will line up to allow you to bolt the two plates together. Study the arms before installing them to see how they work.

To change settings, you simply need a hex key (5mm I think). Make sure there's no grit in the upper plate track otherwise the plates won't be able to slide their full length which prevents the holes from lining up.

The only alignment I'd consider is have the toe adjusted for a specific setting. Personally I did it at max camber for the most predicatabililty when on the track.
Hey FritzMan,

thanks for the tips, I took a close look at the arm yesterday and notice the bolts you mentioned. However, how tight should I tighten those bolts? (I assume it can be dangerous if they come loose when I drive, espically at the track).

Gary
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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 10:01 AM
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Old topics are the best...
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Old May 10, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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bumpity for question:

how to get more than -2.9 from cusco arms?

i had my alignment from Mworkz last week, my driver side i could only get -2.5 but passenger was a -2.9

i would like to see if i could get at least < -3.0

any of you modify your cusco arms? and how?
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Old May 10, 2007 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Chebosto
bumpity for question:

how to get more than -2.9 from cusco arms?

i had my alignment from Mworkz last week, my driver side i could only get -2.5 but passenger was a -2.9

i would like to see if i could get at least < -3.0

any of you modify your cusco arms? and how?
Hey C., this is Dan, Doeboy's friend...Met you a couple of times? When are you going to take that beast of yours out to the track man? John's made instructor you know...

C'mon, if you're not busy, at least come out and get some rides with us this weekend at Buttonwillow or June 2-3rd at Willow Springs. It'll be fun.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 08:02 AM
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Quick question from a track noob

Going from street to track/autox do you need to get it aligned after you switch. I assume no. But say the Autox events are a month apart(first weekend of the month).

Thanks guys and very good read

Chris
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Old May 15, 2007 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by NA&CH
Quick question from a track noob

Going from street to track/autox do you need to get it aligned after you switch. I assume no. But say the Autox events are a month apart(first weekend of the month).

Thanks guys and very good read

Chris
You don't have to change it back.

But you will get more tire wear if you keep a track alignement.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 09:28 AM
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Thanks Kolia Is there a good thread discussing different track setups with cambers and what not? I am searching.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 09:31 AM
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Just scroll down the Autocross/Road forum and you'll find some topics.

Remember that front camber is not adjustable on our cars, so we are somewhat limited in alignement options.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by NA&CH
Thanks Kolia Is there a good thread discussing different track setups with cambers and what not? I am searching.
If you're a noob at this auto-cross thing, and the car sees more street time than "track" time, I suggest you leave it at a conservative setting and don't worry about it until you have at least a half dozen events under your belt.

At your current experience level you will not know what to do with "setup" even if it bit you on the @ss. It will only slow you down. Trust me.

Just go, do the events, and eventually the stuff you read here will click and you'll start figuring out things about settings and why the car behaves a certain way when you change a certain setting. Otherwise all you're doing is trying to maximize what you perceive as the car's potential when the biggest bottle-neck is the nut behind the wheel.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by The HACK
If you're a noob at this auto-cross thing, and the car sees more street time than "track" time, I suggest you leave it at a conservative setting and don't worry about it until you have at least a half dozen events under your belt.

At your current experience level you will not know what to do with "setup" even if it bit you on the @ss. It will only slow you down. Trust me.

Just go, do the events, and eventually the stuff you read here will click and you'll start figuring out things about settings and why the car behaves a certain way when you change a certain setting. Otherwise all you're doing is trying to maximize what you perceive as the car's potential when the biggest bottle-neck is the nut behind the wheel.

Thanks for the insight. I will be starting up in some autox events. The local one is every 1st weekend of he month. I am getting use to my suspension "setup" that I have on the car. I can't wait for the first event.
I just need to get the tire sizing down...

Just for reference:
HKS LS+ coilovers
Cusco Front Aarms
SPC rear camber
Cusco Sways

Track rims for track/autox events. Right now I have standard tire sizes on them. I was thinking 265 all four corners of the Falken 615's.

Sorry for getting off topic.
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 09:37 AM
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Can one of you engineer folks provide a simple chart with conversions from inches to degrees for toe measurements on a 17" wheel?

ie 1/16" = xx degrees
1/8" = xx degrees
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by daveh
Can one of you engineer folks provide a simple chart with conversions from inches to degrees for toe measurements on a 17" wheel?

ie 1/16" = xx degrees
1/8" = xx degrees

1/16" = 0.211 degrees
1/8" = 0.421 degrees
3/16" = 0.682 degrees


I'm assuming toe is measured like this:

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