Holy Brake Pads Batman !!!!!
With 1350 miles on the car I took it to Motorsport Ranch today for member day tracking sessions. The car is new to me, but I am not new to the track. Spend too much time there just ask my wife.
45 mintues was all that the stock 2007 non-brembo rear pads lasted for. I knew the car was heavy and was fast. I was seeing about 100 - 115 on three of the straights into which heavy braking is required. Also was keeping up with a Viper on R' componds so I was pushing the car.
But 45 mintues to the wear out the rears to the "noise wear bars"?
Is this typically wear with stock brakes pads?
I got to instruct for an event in 3 weeks and was planing on taking the Z out for my student rides. It looks like I will need to take the Miata. And if I want to track the Z I need to look at a Wilwood or a PFC braking system.
Is there a pad compond for the stock brakes that will last a little longer?
45 mintues was all that the stock 2007 non-brembo rear pads lasted for. I knew the car was heavy and was fast. I was seeing about 100 - 115 on three of the straights into which heavy braking is required. Also was keeping up with a Viper on R' componds so I was pushing the car.
But 45 mintues to the wear out the rears to the "noise wear bars"?
Is this typically wear with stock brakes pads?
I got to instruct for an event in 3 weeks and was planing on taking the Z out for my student rides. It looks like I will need to take the Miata. And if I want to track the Z I need to look at a Wilwood or a PFC braking system.
Is there a pad compond for the stock brakes that will last a little longer?
holy crap!! I figured the non brembos would suck at the track, but I didnt think they would be that bad. I was going to track the car this summer, after I added dot 4 fluid and ss lines. I guess thats not enough, need better pads too. The stock rotors wont hold up either huh? 19k miles btw.
Originally Posted by tmak26b
Yes, 2-3 events on the rear is normal. IO have an 04, so you might get lucky and get maybe an extra event.
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45 minutes is about right for a stock rear pad. A front brake kit and proper pads will be suffcient for our porky cars.
Even though we emailed each other about brakes last week, I will hold off on my 'I told you so'
Check the sticky on brake pads for some suggestions. Welcome to Z ownership. Watch out for pad knockback too. We've got notoriously weak hubs on our cars. I'll be the engine in that 07 is nice!
Even though we emailed each other about brakes last week, I will hold off on my 'I told you so'
Check the sticky on brake pads for some suggestions. Welcome to Z ownership. Watch out for pad knockback too. We've got notoriously weak hubs on our cars. I'll be the engine in that 07 is nice!
Originally Posted by daveh
I will hold off on my 'I told you so'
Check the sticky on brake pads for some suggestions. Welcome to Z ownership. Watch out for pad knockback too. We've got notoriously weak hubs on our cars. I'll be the engine in that 07 is nice!
Check the sticky on brake pads for some suggestions. Welcome to Z ownership. Watch out for pad knockback too. We've got notoriously weak hubs on our cars. I'll be the engine in that 07 is nice!
Pad knockback? Explain a little further please.
Originally Posted by betamotorsports
I understand that VDC cannot be completely turned off on 350Zs so equipped. If that's true, driving style could end up wearing out rear brakes very quickly.
Originally Posted by MSR350Z
That would be great but I am talking two (2) 30 min. sessions
My friend recently burned through a set of brand new stock OEM pads on his 2005 G35 5AT at Talladega. It was pretty amusing.
I've gotten two track sessions, half-dozen auto-x's, and about 38k all purpose miles out of mine. Quite the bargain I must say.
I've gotten two track sessions, half-dozen auto-x's, and about 38k all purpose miles out of mine. Quite the bargain I must say.
Hmm.. that seems pretty short, but maybe if you were pushing hard. The rear pads are very very small, "postage stamp size", as they say. When I had the stock brakes, I boiled my brake fluid my first time at the track, but I didn't wear out the pads. In any case, my first mod was to put front and rear stoptechs on the car.
That's strange. I went with my 05 G35 Sedan which has the same brakes as the 07 standard ones. And I went too two MSR events with them and still had a ton of life left on my rears especially. I did smokem a bit hehe.
Originally Posted by MSR350Z
With 1350 miles on the car I took it to Motorsport Ranch today for member day tracking sessions. The car is new to me, but I am not new to the track. Spend too much time there just ask my wife.
45 mintues was all that the stock 2007 non-brembo rear pads lasted for. I knew the car was heavy and was fast. I was seeing about 100 - 115 on three of the straights into which heavy braking is required. Also was keeping up with a Viper on R' componds so I was pushing the car.
But 45 mintues to the wear out the rears to the "noise wear bars"?
Is this typically wear with stock brakes pads?
I got to instruct for an event in 3 weeks and was planing on taking the Z out for my student rides. It looks like I will need to take the Miata. And if I want to track the Z I need to look at a Wilwood or a PFC braking system.
Is there a pad compond for the stock brakes that will last a little longer?
45 mintues was all that the stock 2007 non-brembo rear pads lasted for. I knew the car was heavy and was fast. I was seeing about 100 - 115 on three of the straights into which heavy braking is required. Also was keeping up with a Viper on R' componds so I was pushing the car.
But 45 mintues to the wear out the rears to the "noise wear bars"?
Is this typically wear with stock brakes pads?
I got to instruct for an event in 3 weeks and was planing on taking the Z out for my student rides. It looks like I will need to take the Miata. And if I want to track the Z I need to look at a Wilwood or a PFC braking system.
Is there a pad compond for the stock brakes that will last a little longer?
The HR engines in the '07s obviously have more HP & TQ than previous models. I'm not an engineer by any means but if Nissan kept the same stock '06 brake system for the '07 models, then Nissan may not have realized that they did not compensate for the additional power of the '07s. I'm curious to know what their R&D data looked like with an engine that increased its HP & TQ but did not changed the stopping power.
Last year, I was at MSR with Apex Driving Academy. I drove eight (8) 20-minute sessions, in addition to my instructor driving my '06 Z. My Z was stock then, and I did not have any problems with the rear brake pads. I've also done several autocross runs on them without any problems, and the rear pads still looked great when I eventually replaced them with Project U B-Force brake pads.
Last year, I was at MSR with Apex Driving Academy. I drove eight (8) 20-minute sessions, in addition to my instructor driving my '06 Z. My Z was stock then, and I did not have any problems with the rear brake pads. I've also done several autocross runs on them without any problems, and the rear pads still looked great when I eventually replaced them with Project U B-Force brake pads.
Originally Posted by z-u-later
The HR engines in the '07s obviously have more HP & TQ than previous models. I'm not an engineer by any means but if Nissan kept the same stock '06 brake system for the '07 models, then Nissan may not have realized that they did not compensate for the additional power of the '07s. I'm curious to know what their R&D data looked like with an engine that increased its HP & TQ but did not changed the stopping power.
Last year, I was at MSR with Apex Driving Academy. I drove eight (8) 20-minute sessions, in addition to my instructor driving my '06 Z. My Z was stock then, and I did not have any problems with the rear brake pads. I've also done several autocross runs on them without any problems, and the rear pads still looked great when I eventually replaced them with Project U B-Force brake pads.
Last year, I was at MSR with Apex Driving Academy. I drove eight (8) 20-minute sessions, in addition to my instructor driving my '06 Z. My Z was stock then, and I did not have any problems with the rear brake pads. I've also done several autocross runs on them without any problems, and the rear pads still looked great when I eventually replaced them with Project U B-Force brake pads.
Originally Posted by z-u-later
The HR engines in the '07s obviously have more HP & TQ than previous models. I'm not an engineer by any means but if Nissan kept the same stock '06 brake system for the '07 models, then Nissan may not have realized that they did not compensate for the additional power of the '07s. I'm curious to know what their R&D data looked like with an engine that increased its HP & TQ but did not changed the stopping power.
Last year, I was at MSR with Apex Driving Academy. I drove eight (8) 20-minute sessions, in addition to my instructor driving my '06 Z. My Z was stock then, and I did not have any problems with the rear brake pads. I've also done several autocross runs on them without any problems, and the rear pads still looked great when I eventually replaced them with Project U B-Force brake pads.
Last year, I was at MSR with Apex Driving Academy. I drove eight (8) 20-minute sessions, in addition to my instructor driving my '06 Z. My Z was stock then, and I did not have any problems with the rear brake pads. I've also done several autocross runs on them without any problems, and the rear pads still looked great when I eventually replaced them with Project U B-Force brake pads.



