Autocross anyone?
Originally posted by 350zzzzrule
we don't seem to be doing too well against the best US drivers, results from the Castle national tour event below. Is't this Ankeny guy suppose to be an autocross hotshoe? Maybe he was still on street tires and unmodified, can't understand why else the 350Z is getting beat so bad ...
http://www.scca.com/amateur/solo2/na...er/atwater.pdf
we don't seem to be doing too well against the best US drivers, results from the Castle national tour event below. Is't this Ankeny guy suppose to be an autocross hotshoe? Maybe he was still on street tires and unmodified, can't understand why else the 350Z is getting beat so bad ...
http://www.scca.com/amateur/solo2/na...er/atwater.pdf
Our car doesn't have a McPhereson strut suspension at all. Not sure what you are talking about there. As for the LSD, I agree it doesn't seem to be the best. It seems to be a bit slow before catching.
I'm not that experienced with this stuff, to be honest, but Carter Thompson seems pretty happy with his car so far when you talk to him.
This is a new car, so only time will tell how competitive it is, I suppose.
I'm not that experienced with this stuff, to be honest, but Carter Thompson seems pretty happy with his car so far when you talk to him.
This is a new car, so only time will tell how competitive it is, I suppose.
I've had the chance to run aginst Carter Twice now. He's a great guy and a very talented driver. He seems to be working very hard on the car. He said there is no camber adjustment on the front of the 350. That hurts in a big way. I was under the impression that the Z had Mcpherson Strut front suspension Same as the Z4 and maxima and most other cars on the road.
He is correct there is no camber adjustment front or rear. However, we have multilink front and rear suspensions.
He told us the other day that with his front bar and Koni shocks he's working on them with, he'd still pretty much dialed out the understeer, too. I think his One Lap of America site had him at least leading his class in that event after Indianapolis. He's currently doing pretty good, second in his class and 19th overall on a virtually stock car.
Like I said, time will tell. I'm new to this autocross stuff, and definitely can't speak to the abilities of the car other than what more experienced people who drive Zs have told me
He told us the other day that with his front bar and Koni shocks he's working on them with, he'd still pretty much dialed out the understeer, too. I think his One Lap of America site had him at least leading his class in that event after Indianapolis. He's currently doing pretty good, second in his class and 19th overall on a virtually stock car.
Like I said, time will tell. I'm new to this autocross stuff, and definitely can't speak to the abilities of the car other than what more experienced people who drive Zs have told me
Originally posted by MannishBoy
He is correct there is no camber adjustment front or rear. However, we have multilink front and rear suspensions.
He is correct there is no camber adjustment front or rear. However, we have multilink front and rear suspensions.
Yes, there is. I think JIC has a pretty expensive solution for the rear, but I'm not sure about the fronts. I suspect more reasonable links will come out sooner or later. I know dwnshft's company will have some soon, too.
Originally posted by D'oh
I've only been to a few, and I agree on the gear choice. However, since the car tends to understeer, wouldn't it be better to have lower pressure in the fronts than in the rears? It seems like 40 font and 28 rear would make things worse.
What am I missing?
Thanks,
D'oh!
I've only been to a few, and I agree on the gear choice. However, since the car tends to understeer, wouldn't it be better to have lower pressure in the fronts than in the rears? It seems like 40 font and 28 rear would make things worse.
What am I missing?
Thanks,
D'oh!
With an understeering car, you do not want to lower tire pressures on the front. Lowering pressure with some tire compounds increases "traction," but reduces "grip." Grip decreases because you are reducing the tire's slip resistance, hence increase the slip angle during cornering, thus less grip.
To reduce understeer, you either increase grip at front, lower grip at the rear, or both. Thus the tire pressures mentioned seems right, but the rears might be too low; but I do not know what the factory pressures are honestly.
Well, since I got my car I've only been able to run one event, I ran 44 front and 40 rear I believe. I liked the way the car felt, but it was a pretty slick lot and a small tight course. I won't have another event till Memorial day, damn I hate being impatient.
If factory rear sugested pressure is 35 psi, then IMHO 28 would be way too low and create significantly loose rear end. But then again, it is dependent on how the driver feels and driving style.
For example, on my Bimmer, fatory settings for 18" wheels with Pilot Sports are 32 f and 38 r. During autox, I set them to 40 f and 41 r. Based on various runs, I found this to be best for me. However, I am still yet to do pyrometer measurements and get the actual data; just have not had the chance to do.
Two autoxes are comming in the next three weeks, I should be able to make the measurements then. Of course, it won't be relevant to this board
For example, on my Bimmer, fatory settings for 18" wheels with Pilot Sports are 32 f and 38 r. During autox, I set them to 40 f and 41 r. Based on various runs, I found this to be best for me. However, I am still yet to do pyrometer measurements and get the actual data; just have not had the chance to do.
Two autoxes are comming in the next three weeks, I should be able to make the measurements then. Of course, it won't be relevant to this board
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