How did you mount your harness
03-31-2008, 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by laze1
Sure, you can mount them that way..but that doesn't mean they will protect you in an accident.
Why, Because you need a hole in seat base at the proper location for the crotch belts to pass thru......running the crotch belts over the front of a stock seat is very dangerous and will likely not pass most Tech in HPDE clubs like the PCA...
Why, Because you need a hole in seat base at the proper location for the crotch belts to pass thru......running the crotch belts over the front of a stock seat is very dangerous and will likely not pass most Tech in HPDE clubs like the PCA...
03-31-2008, 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by z-u-later
My shoulder harnesses are passed thru underneat the headrest, between the two poles. It's tight enough that it will not get separated.
I have the Avalon Racing Harness Bar, probably the rarest & strongest harness bar ever made for the 350Z. It is mounted on the stock seat belt mounting point on the B-pillar. Trust me, it is the best & safest designed harness bar ever made for the 350Z.
It passes tech inspections by my two local clubs. We have several national-level drivers (former & current SCCA National champions) in our clubs who are very knowledgeable of the safety requirements & they have inspected/passed my setup. I'll trust their judgment before I trust someone's cyber comments on this thread.
I have the Avalon Racing Harness Bar, probably the rarest & strongest harness bar ever made for the 350Z. It is mounted on the stock seat belt mounting point on the B-pillar. Trust me, it is the best & safest designed harness bar ever made for the 350Z.
It passes tech inspections by my two local clubs. We have several national-level drivers (former & current SCCA National champions) in our clubs who are very knowledgeable of the safety requirements & they have inspected/passed my setup. I'll trust their judgment before I trust someone's cyber comments on this thread.
03-31-2008, 06:09 AM
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So, how do you route the crotch belts? Does you stock seat have a hole in the seat cushion?
BTW: You can run whatever you want...the driver is responsible for his/her safety. If you are happy, and your HPDE club is happy...go for it.
BTW: You can run whatever you want...the driver is responsible for his/her safety. If you are happy, and your HPDE club is happy...go for it.
Originally Posted by z-u-later
Who said I run my submarine belts over the front of a stock seat? That's not how my 6-point harnesses are setup.
03-31-2008, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by mhoward1
As stated, the setup would have to be verified at a safety inspection. Your seems to have been, so you are good in your region. Was it inspected for Auto X or HPDE/TT use? Just curious since the requirements are quite different for each. Our biggest concern on the units we have seen have been no diagonal support, and only two mounting points for a previous 4 point belt if attached to the harness bar itself. The final call is made by the club or organization you run with, so they are the ones who need to be satisfied.
03-31-2008, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by laze1
So, how do you route the crotch belts? Does you stock seat have a hole in the seat cushion?
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03-31-2008, 06:33 AM
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Note: I am NOT an Engineer/Doctor/HPDE Tech Inspector, so take my comments for what they are worth i.e., nothing :-)
I just checked some of your other post and saw the pics of this setup.....If you are happy with it, cool! But I would strongly caution other folks from doing this..
Why? In a serious frontal impact...the shoulder belts and the crotch belts will compress your spine...and likely rip your Nads off....that is a very bad thing.
When the belts are mounted in the correct position, the G-forces are spread over areas of your body that have "hard points" like your hips and shoulders. In your setup, you are allowing significant G-forces to be applied over your Nads/leg muscles AND squeezing/compressing your spine.
I just checked some of your other post and saw the pics of this setup.....If you are happy with it, cool! But I would strongly caution other folks from doing this..
Why? In a serious frontal impact...the shoulder belts and the crotch belts will compress your spine...and likely rip your Nads off....that is a very bad thing.
When the belts are mounted in the correct position, the G-forces are spread over areas of your body that have "hard points" like your hips and shoulders. In your setup, you are allowing significant G-forces to be applied over your Nads/leg muscles AND squeezing/compressing your spine.
Originally Posted by z-u-later
The submarine belts on my 6-point harness is run thru the gap behind the seat. It is laid on the seat flat, I sit on it, and I pull it up to the camlock. Since it is a 6-point harness, it is not directly on top of the crotch area, it wraps around it so it feels perfectly in place. The submarine belts are actually on the inside of my legs rather than the crotch area.
03-31-2008, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by laze1
Note: I am NOT an Engineer/Doctor/HPDE Tech Inspector, so take my comments for what they are worth i.e., nothing :-)
Why? In a serious frontal impact...the shoulder belts and the crotch belts will compress your spine...and likely rip your Nads off....that is a very bad thing.
When the belts are mounted in the correct position, the G-forces are spread over areas of your body that have "hard points" like your hips and shoulders. In your setup, you are allowing significant G-forces to be applied over your Nads/leg muscles AND squeezing/compressing your spine.
Why? In a serious frontal impact...the shoulder belts and the crotch belts will compress your spine...and likely rip your Nads off....that is a very bad thing.
When the belts are mounted in the correct position, the G-forces are spread over areas of your body that have "hard points" like your hips and shoulders. In your setup, you are allowing significant G-forces to be applied over your Nads/leg muscles AND squeezing/compressing your spine.
If the OEM lap belt mounting points are good enough for the stock lap belts, why wouldn't it be good enough for the lap belts that came with my 6-point harnesses? I don't undertand why you think the submarine belts are the only ones holding the hip area when there's also the lap belt supplementing it.
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