good deal, I am going to order the camber kit now. shouldnt have bought all that carbon fiber yesterday.

I have a little chargespeed secret for this spring I think it will set the Z off.

I am thinking Vredenstein ultrac 275/35/18 for my stockers

 

the vredestein tires are awesome, they will def. be my next street tire. Had them on the lmgt4s I had.

 

here's the event registration

 

Feb is a busy month at VIR,

The triangle Z club is there Feb 7-8 for full course
Nasa the 21st on Patriot
ESO is there the 23rd
and GTR/Nissan meet the 26th.

 

I wish i had the money to go to all of them lol

 

Then please stop calling it road racing ... if you want to go racing, go racing ... but stop thinking you're racing when you attend an HPDE.

 

square or not is a matter of personal preference...neither is better than the other. I've tried the square setup on my car, and hated it. Others love it. It's not about what others like though, it's about what you feel comfortable with. Only way to know that is to (unfortunately) try both, play around with both, and base your decision off what the car tells you and what your times reflect

at an HPDE, I wouldn't get all concerned about your brake pads, or your tires, etc - you really won't be going fast enough for any of it to make a significant difference. Learn the car first, buy the parts second

 

I agree on the second statement but not on the first...
brakes are an insurance for noob or semi-noob. they don't brake as effective as some experienced people and risk of overheating and experience fade when is dangerous is just too close (imho)
at the end 500$ (lines, fluid and pads) is cheaper than having to replace the front bumper if you have an excursion offroad with minimal damage.

I learned the lesson in the hard way "some" years ago.

I completely agree with who says that less grip is better to learn... feeling the car rotate and "move" 10 or 20 mph slower gives you more room to correct mistakes and feel safer when you don't see the border of the track approach "so fast".

 

A lot of the forums I belong to members keep referring to an HPDE as "Road Racing".

It's annoying.

 

I might be there as well, Mike.

 

haha damn dude got a stick up your ***?

 

Me too
Look forward to seeing you guys.
Crawford

 

No, He's just trying to make sure you have the right state of mind going to an HPDE. A HPDE is about car control, learning track lines, and how to keep safe while getting smoother and faster. A Racing school teaches aggressive lines, out braking the other guy, and overall race strategies. If one wants to learn racing, then they go to a racing school. An HPDE will teach you a lot about driving and it's a great stepping stone to the racing school and racing in general, but it's not racing.

 

I think i can see where the op is coming from-when i describe the events
i do to people not involved in cars and tuning etc... i tell them i do
"road racing events" just because it is easier to get the point accross-
if i say "i do hpde's" they go huhh? or even "track days" and after they
seem to get what i am saying i explain there is no trophy or points
involved just a bunch of peope who appreciate thier sportscars in manner
they were built to be used in.

even the title of this forum is autocross/road-so obviously someone felt
describing it that way made sense

 

well I didnt know people where so sensitive to the titles. I have been to 5 HPDE's, I typically work the track in the past, drive for free, and ride along with the instructors. My good friends father is a 6 year instructor and him and his Z06 buddies rip it when I go out on the track, so I guess my view is a bit skewed from others

 

No ... As an event organizer it's a constant battle keeping liability in check, and drivers with more attitude than skill.

As to the post about describing the events, I can relate ... I've got it even worse when I'm out trying to describe an event to someone... BUT calling it road racing promotes a certain attitude about it that has no place at an HPDE in my humble opinion.

 

And, it's the drivers that have the road racing attitude, at an HPDE day, that are remembered the most. Their the ones that are getting their car towed off the track after and incident.

I've seen that happen too many times at our local track.

 

HPDE= High Performance Drivers *EDUCATION* First you have to learn, then maybe you can "road-race" succesfully.

 

yeah I got it.

dont think I am noob to racing. carts since 10, then quads, bikes, drift, auto-x. Now I have to money to do big track events.

I didnt know people where so sensitive to the "title" road racing. so back off and get back on topic.

 

If your eventual goal is to go road racing with your Z car in SCCA then I would make a copy of the touring T2 rules off the SCCA club racing site. There are very limited things you can do to the car to keep it legal and one of the things not allowed are stoptech brakes or different body panels. The rules do allow the Brembo brakes which are more than enough to stop the car. Nissan has a lit of things specifically designed for the car and allowed in the rules that you should consider. I dont know if Nissan will allow you to sign up for the Motorsports program for discounts until you actaully go racing, but its worth the call. The SCCA rules include front and rear sway bars and springs. As a beginner I would suggest you look for the special Koni shocks that are only sold thru TC Kline in Hilliard, Ohio instead of the $7k shocks we run on our car. Ours are triple adjustable and probably beyond your ability for the first couple of years. My definition of racing is where people in similar prepared cars qualify for a grid position, line up for a fair start by the starter and all haul *** down to turn one as a group. Then after a given number of laps or amount of time a winner is flagged with a checker flag, who is the first car to cross the start-finish line. Everything else is learning or competiting against a clock, not racing.