2016 Z Racing Plans
Beautiful! I watched the whole race
It's my dream to race like this even once in real life but so far iRacing has to do
Where can I follow the two guys and check their specs and setups: number 00 and 54?
By the way, do you have yours listed somewhere dkmura?
It's my dream to race like this even once in real life but so far iRacing has to do
Where can I follow the two guys and check their specs and setups: number 00 and 54?
By the way, do you have yours listed somewhere dkmura?
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As far as I know, neither Derek (#00) or Lans (#54) have published their specs or equipment. As for myself, I've never seen the need for it, as the car changes from season-to-season and even race-to-race. My Z started out in Touring 2, where we ran unrestricted against turbo cars and V8s. We were shifted to T3, where tire size was restricted on an ongoing basis and air restrictors were eventually mandated. I also race in T1, where the Z is again unrestricted against cars like the Viper ACR, Ferrari F430 Cup, Mustang FR500 and others.
Aren't there FIA races that you can race in Europe? If not, surely your local car racing organization (like the SCCA) sanctions some races that you can start up the ladder to full FIA events?
Aren't there FIA races that you can race in Europe? If not, surely your local car racing organization (like the SCCA) sanctions some races that you can start up the ladder to full FIA events?
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Congrats on making it to runoffs, its no small feat in itself. I wouldn't feel bad at all for running DFL, there are so many things that could all work towards how that played out and I applaud you for looking internally for the fault first instead of using the old racers excuses even if they may apply.
Keep your chin up and come back swinging next year!
Keep your chin up and come back swinging next year!
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Might seem a silly question, but it didn't jump out at me when skimming the GCR. Are all the Nismo body kitted cars actual Nismo's or is the bodywork allowed on any Z?
I'm already starting to plan on what SCCA series to run when I get back stateside next year. The current car is a good fit into NASA ST/TT2 but will not have a competitive home in SCCA rulesets. I am considering running a second SCCA car and its between a T3 Z or an STL toybaru.
I'm already starting to plan on what SCCA series to run when I get back stateside next year. The current car is a good fit into NASA ST/TT2 but will not have a competitive home in SCCA rulesets. I am considering running a second SCCA car and its between a T3 Z or an STL toybaru.
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Not a silly question at all- while there are some "true" NISMO 350Zs competing in T3 (complete with serial #'s), the GCR allows for updating/backdating with any homologated model. That means you can spend the $5K for the V3 bodykit (add another $2K for the wing) and run your DE-powered Z in T1-3.
To be completely honest, you may want to wait a bit before jumping into T3. With the way the SCCA comp board has ruled lately, they may target the Z33 for MORE restrictions to tilt the playing field the other direction. I sure as hell am not buying any more tires or other supplies until after 2017 season starts and I see what the rulesets will be!
To be completely honest, you may want to wait a bit before jumping into T3. With the way the SCCA comp board has ruled lately, they may target the Z33 for MORE restrictions to tilt the playing field the other direction. I sure as hell am not buying any more tires or other supplies until after 2017 season starts and I see what the rulesets will be!
Hmm.. cruddy, it would be nice to use all of the spares I have laying around for that. Is there a reason the Z34's have not been targeted for restrictions. Are they just not competitive or just not campaigned?
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Z34s have been restricted as well. Both air restrictors and smaller tires in T3 are mandated and has resulted in a migration to T2, where they have the distinct pleasure of going up against Z06s, E46 M3s, Caymen S and Boss 302 Mustangs.
SO GLAD the SCCA equalized the competition in these touring classes...
SO GLAD the SCCA equalized the competition in these touring classes...
I would say that right now there appears to be a fairly good equalization in T3 judging off that latest race. With the BMW and the Acura both being a very valid contender to finish first place. Anything additional would likely be a death sentence for the Z in T3.
What month do the new year rulesets usually get published?
What month do the new year rulesets usually get published?
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Last year the T3 rule changes were announced in May and were effective June 1st. Most of the time, I expect the comp board will monitor the early season results and make changes if necessary. But T3 did not have good participation #'s last year and may not get a Runoffs race in 2017 if that trend continues...
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Last year the T3 rule changes were announced in May and were effective June 1st. Most of the time, I expect the comp board will monitor the early season results and make changes if necessary. But T3 did not have good participation #'s last year and may not get a Runoffs race in 2017 if that trend continues...
Similar thing happened in my second season (1980 or so).... 30-some years ago! After a really good, high parity Spring season, just as summer season revs up with full schedules, they allowed the Porsche 924 "factory racers" known as "933s" - with the "over-the-counter-if-you-knew-someone" competition kits (and a few actual factory built cars) that included coilover and modified suspension (not just hardware but modded pick up points and geometry!), big motor, big brakes, BBS wheels, etc) into D-Production (when they should have run C-Production) and essentially KILLING the competitiveness of every manufacturer for that and succeeding years. The 924s took the next three Runoffs podiums with few exceptions. Psh.
Gawd help you if you were a privateer.
Apparently, "it's not how well prepared you are and how you drive.... it's who you know." (To twist that well known phrase from the biz world...
Agree with you Mic, with only 2 months that will be mighty hard to source a chassis and get it sorted enough to where I would feel comfortable to take it on track. The winter break is when most of my work gets done on my cars. Trying to do all of that while simultaneously managing the increase in workload that comes in the spring is going to be nigh impossible as a privateer.
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No doubt, semi-factory efforts (like Subaru did in '06, GM in '07-09 and Ford in '10-12) have a distinct advantage over the rest of us. Currently, there were no "works" efforts in any of the touring classes, but that could change at any point. The CRB rule changes to this point seem directed at slowing certain cars down to make them fit a particular class, the Z (both Z33 and Z34) being one of them in T3.
On the other hand, they've opened the door to extensive mods if you want to race your Z in T2. In that class, the Z06 camp is mighty unhappy, as they have a host of restrictions that they are forced to endure. I'd say buying and prepping a Boss 302 is probably the easiest path to the top in that class. Having said that, I still think the SCCA offers the best organization and races I want to participate in, outside of pro racing. And I sure as hell don't have the budget or talent to race there!
On the other hand, they've opened the door to extensive mods if you want to race your Z in T2. In that class, the Z06 camp is mighty unhappy, as they have a host of restrictions that they are forced to endure. I'd say buying and prepping a Boss 302 is probably the easiest path to the top in that class. Having said that, I still think the SCCA offers the best organization and races I want to participate in, outside of pro racing. And I sure as hell don't have the budget or talent to race there!
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No doubt, semi-factory efforts (like Subaru did in '06, GM in '07-09 and Ford in '10-12) have a distinct advantage over the rest of us. Currently, there were no "works" efforts in any of the touring classes, but that could change at any point. The CRB rule changes to this point seem directed at slowing certain cars down to make them fit a particular class, the Z (both Z33 and Z34) being one of them in T3.
On the other hand, they've opened the door to extensive mods if you want to race your Z in T2. In that class, the Z06 camp is mighty unhappy, as they have a host of restrictions that they are forced to endure. I'd say buying and prepping a Boss 302 is probably the easiest path to the top in that class. Having said that, I still think the SCCA offers the best organization and races I want to participate in, outside of pro racing. And I sure as hell don't have the budget or talent to race there!
On the other hand, they've opened the door to extensive mods if you want to race your Z in T2. In that class, the Z06 camp is mighty unhappy, as they have a host of restrictions that they are forced to endure. I'd say buying and prepping a Boss 302 is probably the easiest path to the top in that class. Having said that, I still think the SCCA offers the best organization and races I want to participate in, outside of pro racing. And I sure as hell don't have the budget or talent to race there!
I mean, politics in general. Look at the current Prez race...
You could reverse the symbols and it's still the same.
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