Is there a 17" wheel that can go over 14" stoptechs?
09-13-2005, 09:53 AM
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Based on what's available I'd be interested in:
rear:
17x10 +25 for the rear
front:
17x9 +15 or
17x9 +35 (<---use 10mm spacer)
the 17x9 +15 would bug 0.65mm more than my 9.5 +22 setup, which is already a bit too much IMO. But, with RA-1's, I'd have to increase my front camber from 1.5 to 3.0 anyway, so it might not look so strange after an alignment adding more camber.
I'm a bit weary getting special production wheels because if I bend a wheel, I'll have special order one. The 5zigens are priced just right for me.
I emailed hopupracing to get a quote and possibly order the wheels, but they told me to hold off until Victor physically measures the wheel over the stoptech kit. I don't think they realize the Victor's set was not for a Z33. There was no implied fitment guarantee, since John doesn't work for hopup (as I understood it), so I've held off on the order until there is one.
BTW, the matte black looks awesome!
rear:
17x10 +25 for the rear
front:
17x9 +15 or
17x9 +35 (<---use 10mm spacer)
the 17x9 +15 would bug 0.65mm more than my 9.5 +22 setup, which is already a bit too much IMO. But, with RA-1's, I'd have to increase my front camber from 1.5 to 3.0 anyway, so it might not look so strange after an alignment adding more camber.
I'm a bit weary getting special production wheels because if I bend a wheel, I'll have special order one. The 5zigens are priced just right for me.
I emailed hopupracing to get a quote and possibly order the wheels, but they told me to hold off until Victor physically measures the wheel over the stoptech kit. I don't think they realize the Victor's set was not for a Z33. There was no implied fitment guarantee, since John doesn't work for hopup (as I understood it), so I've held off on the order until there is one.
BTW, the matte black looks awesome!
09-13-2005, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Wazowski
You know that's possible if you can get enough orders.
The wheels I got aren't even listen on 5Zigen's webpage. Matte Black not listen for 17x10.
The wheels I got aren't even listen on 5Zigen's webpage. Matte Black not listen for 17x10.
seing my brakes actually have 4-5mm more clearance than the stoptechs, I don't think I'll have any issues with any of those wheels.
I am still undecided if to go with 17x9+15 or 17x10+25 for the rear... with 17x9+35 for the front... Just need to find a good 10mm hubcentric spacer now
09-13-2005, 10:15 AM
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H&R makes good spacers, some of them even come with longer studs. Those are the ones I plan on getting for my car. They are a tad expensive but are worth it for the quality.
What brakes do you have? Sorry, hard to keep up with everything.
What brakes do you have? Sorry, hard to keep up with everything.
09-13-2005, 10:20 AM
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H&R Makes 5mm, 15mm, 20mm, spacers and 25mm adapters...
The 5, 15, 20mm spacers all come with longer hub bolts...
The 25mm Adapters bolt on to the existing hub bolts and the wheels bolts to the adapter...
The 5mm spacers are hub centric to the bore of the hubs, but not hubcentric to the wheels since they do not extend the hub... 15mm and larger are hubcentric...
Eibach also makes spacers now... although they have a 10mm spacer it is Hubcentric...
The 5, 15, 20mm spacers all come with longer hub bolts...
The 25mm Adapters bolt on to the existing hub bolts and the wheels bolts to the adapter...
The 5mm spacers are hub centric to the bore of the hubs, but not hubcentric to the wheels since they do not extend the hub... 15mm and larger are hubcentric...
Eibach also makes spacers now... although they have a 10mm spacer it is Hubcentric...
09-13-2005, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Wazowski
You don't want to increase camber just to fit wheels/tires. That's dumb IMHO, so many 240SX owners do this and think it's cool. That's just asking for excessive tire wear.
09-13-2005, 10:22 AM
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The best choice is probably 17x9 +35 with a 10mm spacer effectively bringing the offset to +25 for the front, as for the rear 17x10 +25.
According to the last e-mail John @ 5Zigen sent me those settings should fit over 355mm STOPTECH's for the Z33.
Order here...
http://www.hopupracing.com
or call them, ask for Steve.
According to the last e-mail John @ 5Zigen sent me those settings should fit over 355mm STOPTECH's for the Z33.
Order here...
http://www.hopupracing.com
or call them, ask for Steve.
09-13-2005, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Jason@Performance
aggressive camber in the front on the 350Z is a good thing... If you are running most R-Compound tires in the front they recormend -3.5 - -4.5 negitive camber...
09-13-2005, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Wazowski
The best choice is probably 17x9 +35 with a 10mm spacer effectively bringing the offset to +25 for the front, as for the rear 17x10 +25.
According to the last e-mail John @ 5Zigen sent me those settings should fit over 355mm STOPTECH's for the Z33.
Order here...
http://www.hopupracing.com
or call them, ask for Steve.
According to the last e-mail John @ 5Zigen sent me those settings should fit over 355mm STOPTECH's for the Z33.
Order here...
http://www.hopupracing.com
or call them, ask for Steve.
we are a 5zigen dealer as well....
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09-13-2005, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Wazowski
H&R makes good spacers, some of them even come with longer studs. Those are the ones I plan on getting for my car. They are a tad expensive but are worth it for the quality.
What brakes do you have? Sorry, hard to keep up with everything.
What brakes do you have? Sorry, hard to keep up with everything.
I'll look into the eibach
I have F&R brakezone wilwood 14"
09-13-2005, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Wazowski
Why is that? Please excuse my ignorance.
If you are cornering hard with less aggressive camber (like stock) the out side of the tires wear more when on the track... When running the negitive camber on the front on the track you get the full contact of the tire on the ground... It digs into the track more rather then skimming along the outter end... This is one of the reason's why the Z understeers in its stock set up...
Photo examples... (best I have rite now...)
My car with about -.25 degrees more then stock camber...
My car with more negitive camber but would do better with more...
One of our race cars cornering... Notice how the front passenger side wheel is at a almost even angle with the road...
See what I mean?
09-13-2005, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Nano
That's what I was thinking... but for some mystical reason that TOTALLY eludes me... H&R does not make a 10mm spacer!!! only 5 15 20 and 25!!!
I'll look into the eibach
I have F&R brakezone wilwood 14"
I'll look into the eibach
I have F&R brakezone wilwood 14"
Oh yeah I forgot H&R doesn't make a 10mm. You can always stack 2 5mm.
09-13-2005, 10:55 AM
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09-13-2005, 10:57 AM
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it also helps with drifting set ups as well...
but too much in some set ups can be bad.. you then sacrafice braking..
and too much neg in the rear you sacrafice acceleration...
but too much in some set ups can be bad.. you then sacrafice braking..
and too much neg in the rear you sacrafice acceleration...
09-13-2005, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Wazowski
Why is that? Please excuse my ignorance.
Look at Rickdoggs car with the Cusco front a-arms and around -2.5 deg. camber! He is running the 17x9 et15 wheels and it is perfect! I don't think it will look bad on a decently lowered non-adjustable car either.
I run an 18x9 et+5 with a 245/40/18 tire and it works great, but is aggressive
09-13-2005, 12:29 PM
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the performance nissan race cars run pretty aggressive offsets. I would almost guess to say that 17x9 +15 and 17x10 +12 (or 17x10 +25 w/5mm spacer) would yield similar wheel fitment. Notice how much rim stickout there is outside the wheel well despite the fact that they're probably running 3.5 to 4.5 degrees of camber in front and roughly 3 degrees in the rear. Compare that to Jason's Nismo rims...
09-13-2005, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 03Z33
Look at Rickdoggs car with the Cusco front a-arms and around -2.5 deg. camber!