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Old 10-03-2005 | 04:01 AM
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Default Sentra SE-R Brembo calipers

Since I have installed the Brembo GT 13" BBK on the front, the rear set had a hard time measuring in terms of aesthetics. The rear OEM Brembo calipers from the Track Z were $2,500 (!!!!!). How much would a set of frant calipers from a Sentra SE-R spec-V would run me (I know it's a $1000 option) and would they work on Z's rear? (with appropriate rotors).
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Also, if anyone has an alternative suggestion I will be very glad to hear/read it.
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I've discussed this before with a local shop and they would work however you are going to need to have a custom bracket made to mount them...It wont be cheap but if a machine shop can create a design for it and machine several of them they could easily sell them here. FYI the Sentra Brembo caliper is about 60% the price of the Z one although it is the same design sans mounting points.
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MIA, if there is enough people willing to go that route, then I can shop around for a machine shop that can fabricate the bracket. Or what we can do is maybe speak to one of the vendors, to put together a rear Brembo kit (which would be of a good use for people running the Brembo BBK on front):

12-13" rotors (may get that from a number of companies) either drilled or slotted
Sentra SE-R front calipers (possibly powder coated to a color of choice)
Custom mounting brackets

If 25-30 (or more) people would be willing to get that, then we might be able to get away with a good discount, especially if the vendor has access to Nissan parts at dealer invoice.

Write me back and tell me what do you think...
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MIA, if there is enough people willing to go that route, then I can shop around for a machine shop that can fabricate the bracket. Or what we can do is maybe speak to one of the vendors, to put together a rear Brembo kit (which would be of a good use for people running the Brembo BBK on front):

12-13" rotors (may get that from a number of companies) either drilled or slotted
Sentra SE-R front calipers (possibly powder coated to a color of choice)
Custom mounting brackets

If 25-30 (or more) people would be willing to get that, then we might be able to get away with a good discount, especially if the vendor has access to Nissan parts at dealer invoice.

Write me back and tell me what do you think...
well honestly the front caliper for the Sentra is basically identical to the Z one from the info I have. It just costs less to order the Sentra one. So technically if the shop could fabricate both front and rear brackets they could probably make a brake kit that would end up VERY cheap for everyone. I have a shop that can get the Brembo calipers for a good price we just need someone to design a caliper mounting bracket. Furthermore I think we can use the new Maxima SE rotors which are 12" I believe and have the same shop slot or cross drill them. Myself, I'm interested in using these calipers front and rear with 12-13" rotors.
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That shop that you are mentioning, BTW, how much would they charge for a pair of 350Z OEM rear Brembos?
It is not that my rear brakes are inadequate, it is just that I have this beautiful red BBK on the front looking nice and aggressive in contrast with black/chrome wheels and the caliper clearence is only a few milimeters, the rear set looks like *** comparing to that (put on drilled rotors and painted the calipers red). Brembo make no aftermarket upgrades for the Z's rear and I am not desparate enough to go through the idiocy of rebadging th Stoptech calipers. I am approaching having to swap the rear brake pads (probably at my next oil change in 3000 miles) and was planning to do an uprade then. If I can find a set of rear OEM Brembos for a good price, I will be content.
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That shop that you are mentioning, BTW, how much would they charge for a pair of 350Z OEM rear Brembos?
It is not that my rear brakes are inadequate, it is just that I have this beautiful red BBK on the front looking nice and aggressive in contrast with black/chrome wheels and the caliper clearence is only a few milimeters, the rear set looks like *** comparing to that (put on drilled rotors and painted the calipers red). Brembo make no aftermarket upgrades for the Z's rear and I am not desparate enough to go through the idiocy of rebadging th Stoptech calipers. I am approaching having to swap the rear brake pads (probably at my next oil change in 3000 miles) and was planning to do an uprade then. If I can find a set of rear OEM Brembos for a good price, I will be content.
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I'm not sure.... I'll PM you their info...they can get you the price of the Brembo calipers but again you just need to see if a local machine shop can fab up some mounting brackets...
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Sounds like your brake proportioning is going to be thrown off with this setup.

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Victor, so what is the perfect compliment to the 13" Brembo GT in the front?
I honestly do not know much on the brake proportioning...
BTW, where are you from, if you don't mind me asking?
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I'm from Hell.

The number of pistons and the size of the pistons effect the front and rear bias. You cannot just slap together some brakes and slap it on the car. And that is exactly why I don't like these slap together brake kits ahem*Wilwood*ahem. When someone makes a brake kit using Wilwoods they will never have as much R&D time as kits offered by STOPTECH, which is why they end up having problems and such.

The closest thing you can try IMHO is a Z32 rear 2-piston setup or a STOPTECH 2-piston rear setup.

Sorry I guess I turned this into a Wilwood rant.

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Victor, I looked around and found some photos of Z32 rear calipers, they are actually reasonably good looking. Now get ready for the interrogation:
-Is it a straight bolt-on affair, or does it require any mounting bracket fabrications?
-Will it work with the stoptech rotor that I have, or does it require its own? Will those fit on my car? In other words, what do I need to do to get them to work on my car?
-What is the best place to buy them (used) and how much would you say the MSRP would be? I am talking about the ones with the Nissan logo on.

I really appreciate all your input.
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Originally Posted by Oleg
Victor, I looked around and found some photos of Z32 rear calipers, they are actually reasonably good looking. Now get ready for the interrogation:
-Is it a straight bolt-on affair, or does it require any mounting bracket fabrications?
-Will it work with the stoptech rotor that I have, or does it require its own? Will those fit on my car? In other words, what do I need to do to get them to work on my car?
-What is the best place to buy them (used) and how much would you say the MSRP would be? I am talking about the ones with the Nissan logo on.

I really appreciate all your input.
Are you doing this for aesthetics or for performance?

I don't know if it's straight bolt-on. Both Z33 and Z32 rear use the drum-type e-brake, so it is similar.
It will likely require it's own specific rotor.
Best place to buy is a junkyard or if you know someone at AutoZone they can order you a rebuilt set and you trade in your stock rears. You're not supposed to do this that's why you need to "know" someone. Check some 240SX sites as well. People are always selling them. Price varies, usually under $300.00.

I forgot to mention that the size of your master cylinder affects bias as well. You should read up on some tech articles on STOPTECH's website that applies to all braking systems. http://www.stoptech.com

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I am looking to do this for to improve aesthetics and at least retain the current performance. However I do not want to waste more then a grand on this. My current braking force is adequate. And the time is not an issue b/c I still have at least 3000 miles left on current pads and with as much as I drive the car and the winter coming, it will be at least 4-5 month for me to need to address them. I am very reluctant however to mix brands or actually relabel brands. So far the Z32 idea sounds the best, but more research will be required, so I will start with going to the Stoptech page. Do you know anyone here who got away with this?
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If you are doing this for aesthetics have you considered painting your current caliper?
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I'm not so sure the balance is going to be that off. If he is running Brembo GT calipers up front (aren't they 6 piston) and stock Brembo fronts in the rear (2 pistons I think) I'm sure he'll be fine...Of course it does need some testing.
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I painted it. Still looks like @$$. So please take away my keys if I ever look again on those fake big brake looking covers one can bolt on to the caliper...

I actually was considering the OEM brambo caliper for the rear, but that is over 2000 with all said/done, and I am reluctant to spent so much just for looks.
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Actually the Brembo GT are 4-pot, but the calipers are much bigger then on the track Z.
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Actually the Brembo GT are 4-pot, but the calipers are much bigger then on the track Z.
Hmm a bigger piston size should also help maintain the balance. Like I said it would need testing but should work.
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It would be an expensive test. If it fails get a Tilton brake proportioning valve.
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Whats a brake proportioning valve?
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Originally Posted by Oleg
Whats a brake proportioning valve?
Google is your friend

http://www.mirafiori.com/~courtney/1...rop_valve.html


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