Ok, im gonna do my best to explain my problem,.. –I installed TANABE NF210 lowering spring last night, I loved the height dropped, but I noticed my rear tires tilted inwards. Im guessing this will result on an uneven wear on my tires, right? Oh and of course if you look at the car on the angled-side, and at the back, it looks bad The tires view from behind the car looks like this / \ -sorry this is the best way I can described them. I can get pictures, but I don’t know how to attach em’ though.

I read some similar topics like “camber” but didn’t get a particular solution. I found out a thing called “ADJUSTABLE REAR CAMBER/TOE”. But before I get these, I would just like your opinion on it first if this are the “only thing” that I need to buy to fix the problem. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks in advance!

 

Yeah I would call that butterflying. Anyways, don't those springs lower like 1.2-1.5 all around? Anyways, I think you're going to need the camber arms/toe and most likely will have inner tire wear without them. You'll also need an alignment after everything.

--Sam

 

I don't know what the drop rate is on those springs, but I'd recommend the spc camber arms.

http://www.iapdirect.com/item.asp?invid=622

 

I can almost get a coilover after the spring+Camber Arm+....

 

didn't think that those springs would cause that much difference in camber. Stock I noticed that my rears lean in a little bit and I was thinking about getting these or the GF's. And with coilovers I heard you would need to get the adjustable a-arms + the adjustable links just to get it close to stock camber. You should try to take a pic from the rear so we can see how much it leans in.

 

wolf_350z,
I have the GF's and I believe they lower the car a tad bit more than the NF's. Anyway, yes you will notice an increase in neg. camber angle and a bit more toe if you stare at it long enough. I got my alignment done and was able to pull the rear camber and toe back into factory spec, albeit it's the max factory recommended. You'll also notice that the rear tires will make a lot more noise on acceleration due to increase feathering. As for the front, camber isn't adjustable and I am well beyond the factory spec there but toe is perfect.

In all actuallity having out of spec toe will kill tires a lot quicker than aggressive neg camber. Since you'll be able to pull the toe back within spec by doing an alignment I really don't think you should worry about the camber/toe kits. Your NF's coupled with a set of sway bars would be the perfect balance between normal comfortable street driving and a very appreciable difference in cornering over the stock set-up

 

Thanks for all the input guys! I really appreciate it a lot. Thanks to all of you so now for sure I will be getting the rear camber arm/toe for my car. Anyways I found a cheap one from someone here in the forum.

As for the alignment thing, is it possible to do it myself or should I go to some wheel balancing shop,. like some tire stores maybe? But I would prefer to do it myself so I would learn more new stuffs.

Btw, TANABE NF210 specs says it drops 1.2” around. And yes I noticed the feel of it around the corners,. –its pretty cool, especially when going on-ramp to the freeways!

I got the pictures already taken, if someone is interested in helping me posting them, just let me now. Thanks!

 

hey buddy i have a set of Kinetix Rear Camber and traction arm for sale.

You can find more info on this thread

 

How come there are always 2 answers for dropping Tanabe GF210 spring?!?!?

some said alignment can pull the camber and toe back into factory spec... and some said u need camber arm to pull it back into factory spec...

so it depend on your luck or what?!?! so confuse....

maybe it depend on the year of ur car made?!


I like the GF210 spring... coz i like the 1.2" all around drop...

but if it require camber arm or other stuff to fix the neg camber problem...i think I will consider another spring... coz i dun wanna spend extra money for the camber arm and stuff...

Hope someone can help me out!!

 

Wolf
I would have the alignment done at a shop, unless you have access and know what your doing on those machines. It shouldnt cost to much either.

atlsupdawg
Do you have some pics of your car lowered on those springs. I was thinking of the GF's instead of NF's. And also did they get you close to factory specs with the stock parts or did you get the camber/toe arms also?

 

.Sin.
My Z is an '05 and I've heard past year models have had issues with extreme tire wear due to the suspension alignment. That may have something to do with the variances you may be seeing. They may have done something a bit different on the '05s... I don't know

I guess another thing that may play a role in the inconsistency is the type of equipment used to align the car. I went to a shop that specializes in custom alignments, mounting and high speed balancing & they used laser alignment equipment which the tech said was VERY accurate and consistent. As for my camber in the rear Nissan says 2.1degrees is max and I'm right at 2.0 Left / 2.1 Right. Max toe is .09 and I'm at .07 Left / .08 Right..

 

thanks for the info...

so how much it cost you for doing that laser alignment??

 

No problem at all .Sin.

The alignment cost me $89. Probably a bit more than the local tire shop would charge. Hell, probably almost double

 

sasuke
sorry bud, honestly i cant afford those for now,. i guess i'll be buying just the generic (no brand) ones. b/c i'll be using the rest of my budget for the alignment thingy! thanks anyways for the offer...

BZ350
thanks for the info, i didnt know that i need some machine to align the toe's. i thought all i need to use is a wrench and just my eyes to see if they're already aligned

 

sorry i didnt noticed your reply, thats why i probably skipped reading it. so you mean to say you lowered your car and just aligned it? and didnt need to buy an adjustable camber/arm/toe anymore... wow! maybe i'll go to a shop first before buying the part, i hope i'll get lucky and they might be able to correct the negative camber on my Z too!

 

I recently lowered my z on hotchkis springs. They lower roughly 3/4" in the rear and the alignment tech got them pretty well back into oe spec.

One thing to keep in mind is the z has a good bit of rear neg. camber oe but the tires don't look that "tilted" due to the large gap between the tire and fender. But when you lower it and the tire to fender gap is reduced it really exagerates the fact they are "tilted" even though the camber has been brought back to oe specs.

I'm not sure of the drop your springs yield but 3/4" is about the max drop in the rear that can be corrected with out needing camber arms etc.

 

Just depends on what exactly it is you consider the problem. Is it the aesthetics or tire wear or both?

 

mine dropped around 1.2" to 1.5". so it's bad news for me huh?!
btw, to give you an idea how much is the actual dropped of my car, -you can barely put your index and middle finger in-between the tire and fender. (im using stock 17"s) oh, and its kinda more tight in the front.

 

I think it's worth the price....

u save the money and hassle for camber kit...

 

i would say i'll go for fixing the looks,. b/c i dont want my z to look like one of those trucks with hydrolic shocks (im reffering about their camber when they are parked)