NEW Stance SUS Coilover Review
06-03-2006, 08:09 AM
#46
Originally Posted by drumma022
They are only now offering the true coilover design for the rear. I believe the spring rates are now set to 12/5.
The Z coilovers come in a 14k/11k spring rates. Stance offers a true coilover design for the rear like the BuddyClub and other higher end coilovers. They also offer a more comfortable setup where it is a 11k front and a progressive 5k for the rear with an OEM spring perch design for the rear. We opted to test out the single type rear. Especially since the MSRP is $1295 and we're running a special on our website www.enjukuracing.com.
06-03-2006, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 350Zteve
I sure hope not, then it would not be possible to adjust ride height in the rear.
With either setup your going to be able to adjust rear ride height.
With the setup that has the rear spring in the oem position you'll get a height adjustment system to be used with the springs along with rear shocks that are adjustable for length. Shortening the rear dampners adjust's piston travel and set's rear spring preload (adjusts preload at least with the setup I have run).
With the setup having the rear springs on the dampners, adjusting the length of those dampners set's the rear ride height. Spring preload of course has nothing to do with height.
06-03-2006, 09:53 AM
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12/5 are the spring rates? Are you serious? That makes them 100% stiffer than stock in the front and 33% SOFTER than stock in the rear. That makes no sense. That would the ****tiest setup ever ... I sure hope not, then it would not be possible to adjust ride height in the rear.
The springs rates have been scaled down to a 5K in the rear due to 2 reasons.
The spring is now on a different location to have a different overall effect on the suspension. This may seem like crappy spring rates as 350Zsteve has suggested, however in reality its is a very balanced setup. This was already proven by an alternate source (VRT) who has no incentive to give good or bad reviews on the coilovers.
The rear spring operates in conjunction with the coilover using a linear spring rather than a progressive spring like other setups. You are also able to preload the spring to allow for personal preference on the way the suspension is setup. Lastly, the dampening has an incredible effect on the way the car handles. You can have an 8k rear with crappy valving and a 5k rear with better dampening characteristics and the 5k will come out having an overall better feel.
Also, even though most coilovers require that you remove the factory springs in the rear, you can leave the spring there and it will compress to have an INCREDIBLY stiff spring. The new coilover will force the stock spring to compress but no system that I am aware of out there is designed to do this.
06-03-2006, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by drumma022
The springs rates have been scaled down to a 5K in the rear due to 2 reasons.
The spring is now on a different location to have a different overall effect on the suspension. This may seem like crappy spring rates as 350Zsteve has suggested, however in reality its is a very balanced setup. This was already proven by an alternate source (VRT) who has no incentive to give good or bad reviews on the coilovers.
The rear spring operates in conjunction with the coilover using a linear spring rather than a progressive spring like other setups. You are also able to preload the spring to allow for personal preference on the way the suspension is setup. Lastly, the dampening has an incredible effect on the way the car handles. You can have an 8k rear with crappy valving and a 5k rear with better dampening characteristics and the 5k will come out having an overall better feel.
Also, even though most coilovers require that you remove the factory springs in the rear, you can leave the spring there and it will compress to have an INCREDIBLY stiff spring. The new coilover will force the stock spring to compress but no system that I am aware of out there is designed to do this.
The spring is now on a different location to have a different overall effect on the suspension. This may seem like crappy spring rates as 350Zsteve has suggested, however in reality its is a very balanced setup. This was already proven by an alternate source (VRT) who has no incentive to give good or bad reviews on the coilovers.
The rear spring operates in conjunction with the coilover using a linear spring rather than a progressive spring like other setups. You are also able to preload the spring to allow for personal preference on the way the suspension is setup. Lastly, the dampening has an incredible effect on the way the car handles. You can have an 8k rear with crappy valving and a 5k rear with better dampening characteristics and the 5k will come out having an overall better feel.
Also, even though most coilovers require that you remove the factory springs in the rear, you can leave the spring there and it will compress to have an INCREDIBLY stiff spring. The new coilover will force the stock spring to compress but no system that I am aware of out there is designed to do this.
06-03-2006, 10:27 AM
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Okay, I'm totally confused. Please clarify the following:
1. How many rear springs are there used per side? One or two?
2. If one, where is it? On the shock or in the stock location?
3. If two, is the stock spring retained or are there two after market springs?
I thought I read that the kit originally came as a coilover in the rear, but was later changed to a separate spring and damper setup like stock.
1. How many rear springs are there used per side? One or two?
2. If one, where is it? On the shock or in the stock location?
3. If two, is the stock spring retained or are there two after market springs?
I thought I read that the kit originally came as a coilover in the rear, but was later changed to a separate spring and damper setup like stock.
06-03-2006, 10:39 AM
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1 - One per corner of the car.
2 - Spring is on the shock (eliminating the stock spring location).
Stance originally made 2 types. Stock type and true coilover type. Recently, they discontinued the stock type coilover, now ONLY making the true coilover type.
2 - Spring is on the shock (eliminating the stock spring location).
Stance originally made 2 types. Stock type and true coilover type. Recently, they discontinued the stock type coilover, now ONLY making the true coilover type.
06-03-2006, 11:15 AM
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i just had my stance installed, true coilover all around--NOT oem style in the rear--by Auto RnD last week and I've been dailying the Z with a 2" drop all around and it rides WAYYYY better than stock. Great service and great install and alignment and great coilovers! +1 ftw!
06-03-2006, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jinsei888
i just had my stance installed, true coilover all around--NOT oem style in the rear--by Auto RnD last week and I've been dailying the Z with a 2" drop all around and it rides WAYYYY better than stock. Great service and great install and alignment and great coilovers! +1 ftw!
06-03-2006, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by drumma022
1 - One per corner of the car.
2 - Spring is on the shock (eliminating the stock spring location).
Stance originally made 2 types. Stock type and true coilover type. Recently, they discontinued the stock type coilover, now ONLY making the true coilover type.
2 - Spring is on the shock (eliminating the stock spring location).
Stance originally made 2 types. Stock type and true coilover type. Recently, they discontinued the stock type coilover, now ONLY making the true coilover type.
06-04-2006, 10:24 AM
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Is there any concern for supporting the static weight of the car on suspension pieces not designed for that purpose? (I mean by removing the OEM coil spring and installing true coil-overs.)
Anyone try these on a G35 yet?
Do these coil overs lessen the amout of clearance between the back side of the tire and the shock?
Anyone try these on a G35 yet?
Do these coil overs lessen the amout of clearance between the back side of the tire and the shock?
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06-04-2006, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by __jb
Is there any concern for supporting the static weight of the car on suspension pieces not designed for that purpose? (I mean by removing the OEM coil spring and installing true coil-overs.)
Originally Posted by __jb
Anyone try these on a G35 yet?
Originally Posted by __jb
Do these coil overs lessen the amout of clearance between the back side of the tire and the shock?
06-04-2006, 06:22 PM
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Yes, as I mentioned in a previous post, these (rear) coilovers are a little larger diameter than just the shock alone. Yet, (much to my suprise) I was able to clear a 315/30/18 on the rear with a 9.5" wheel with a 30mm ofset. I would be surprised if anyone else ventures that wide too often on these cars.[/QUOTE]
So if i had 19x10.5 with a 19 offset, do you think it would clear?
So if i had 19x10.5 with a 19 offset, do you think it would clear?