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I have the nismo S-tune suspension and 18x10 inch wheels with 295 BFG drag radials on them. Under hard acceleration, my suspension compresses a good amount and I only have about a 3.5-4 inch traction patch on the inside of the tires. The car still hooks great but I wear the inside of my rear tires out pretty fast.
My alignment guy could only get my rear to -1.4 degrees of camber on the factory arms. I need to get some aftermarket arms to pull more camber out, and am considering a couple options. The Kinetix kit looks pretty good but I don't know if I need the "traction bars" since my car isn't lowered much at all (only 20mm according to nismo).
Here's the kinetix kit:
http://www.kinetixracing.com/index.a...WPROD&ProdID=4
Here's just a set of camber arms:
http://www.groupbuycenter.com/product.aspx?id=23103&f=1
Which would be better for my setup and do I really "need" the traction (toe) bars?
My alignment guy could only get my rear to -1.4 degrees of camber on the factory arms. I need to get some aftermarket arms to pull more camber out, and am considering a couple options. The Kinetix kit looks pretty good but I don't know if I need the "traction bars" since my car isn't lowered much at all (only 20mm according to nismo).
Here's the kinetix kit:
http://www.kinetixracing.com/index.a...WPROD&ProdID=4
Here's just a set of camber arms:
http://www.groupbuycenter.com/product.aspx?id=23103&f=1
Which would be better for my setup and do I really "need" the traction (toe) bars?
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Originally Posted by MI 35th
screw those IMHO... id go with 350evo's rear arms, machines and beautiful.
Got a link for those? They don't even list them on the website.
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Actually the cheapest setup that will get your car as far as it needs to go is the SPC setup. According to the webpage it offers +/- 3 degrees in toe and +/- 4 degrees in camber. I can tell you I have this setup and during my last alignment while messing with it the alignment guy had it to -1.0 degrees and had plenty to go. I currently have mine set at -1.4 on the rear in camber and .-1 overall toe in. Front is at -1.4 both sides in camber and -.05 total toe in. That being said you could easily go more positive then -1.0 in the rear if you need to or far more negative then what I have. Plus at $220 shipped they are a steal. http://www.iapdirect.com/item.asp?invid=622
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I would get the Kinetix. I had a set of them but decided to leave the stock suspension. It is top notch. The person that I sold them to absolutely loves it. He reported no wheel hop as he was previously experiencing.
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Originally Posted by MIAPLAYA
Actually the cheapest setup that will get your car as far as it needs to go is the SPC setup. According to the webpage it offers +/- 3 degrees in toe and +/- 4 degrees in camber. I can tell you I have this setup and during my last alignment while messing with it the alignment guy had it to -1.0 degrees and had plenty to go. I currently have mine set at -1.4 on the rear in camber and .-1 overall toe in. Front is at -1.4 both sides in camber and -.05 total toe in. That being said you could easily go more positive then -1.0 in the rear if you need to or far more negative then what I have. Plus at $220 shipped they are a steal. http://www.iapdirect.com/item.asp?invid=622
Fantastic...looks like one vote for the SPC setup.
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I would get the Kinetix. I had a set of them but decided to leave the stock suspension. It is top notch. The person that I sold them to absolutely loves it. He reported no wheel hop as he was previously experiencing.
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Originally Posted by BriGuyMax
Fantastic...looks like one vote for the SPC setup.
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Originally Posted by BriGuyMax
Damn..now I'm torn again...although I rarely get wheel hop (DRs pretty much always hook), Anything that could stiffen up the rear setup would be good. This is going to be a tough decision.
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Originally Posted by 35ounces
+1 on the SPC arms. I got them for like $165 but I'll be damned if I can remember where from...I'll dig it up if you really need it.
Dude...if you could dig it up that would be fantastic.
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NOPI = nopionline.com
I think these are the ones (you need 2) http://www.nopionline.com/nopistore/...%20350Z%202003
I think these are the ones (you need 2) http://www.nopionline.com/nopistore/...%20350Z%202003
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Brian-I have both Kinetix Camber/traction arms AND the SPC Eccentric bolts for camber/toe on my car. For some reason with just the Kinetix set-up my car had horrible camber-it was worse than -2.4 degrees in the rear. at it sprevious ride height setting which was way low. I then added the SPC set-up which is cheaper btw, and it brought it to -1.9 degrees rear camber. I ran the Kinetix stuff for 20K+ miles, and adjusting the traction/toe arm is not the proper way to adjust toe. I think over time it did something to make my suspension get out of alignment even worse. Actually I have never told anybody this, but I had a Kinetix Traction rod break as I drove down the highway no potholes or anything involved! It seemed the way the traction rod was adjusted it put too much stress on my setup-this is why I set it back some, and used the SPC kit to help get it acceptable. Anyways sorry for ramblin on, but Ive had my car aligned 5X now, Ive had camber as bad as -4.3 degrees to my now -1.8/1.9. Also over time with just the Kinetix stuff only on my car my camber would slowly go negative again.
www.iapdirect.com sells the SPC stuff, I recommend it. I wish I wouldnt have slammed my car like a dumba$$ when I got the coilovers, and I wish I would have done more research on camber kits but good luck with your set-up. Im actually contemplating raising the car for around only -1 rear camber but I love the look too much and my tire wear is much more acceptable than what I used to get.
www.iapdirect.com sells the SPC stuff, I recommend it. I wish I wouldnt have slammed my car like a dumba$$ when I got the coilovers, and I wish I would have done more research on camber kits but good luck with your set-up. Im actually contemplating raising the car for around only -1 rear camber but I love the look too much and my tire wear is much more acceptable than what I used to get.
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I have SPC rear camber arms and they work great. Right now I'm running Eibach springs which drop it 1-1.5in all the way around, so camber was an issue. I have rear camber set to -.8 deg (less than stock specs) and I now get full contact with my rear tires. Traction is still an issue, but I do notice a slight difference in 2nd gear (then again, it might be that damn placebo effect).
I got them for about $220 from a place in Orlando. Great deal.
As far as the install, it's pretty simple. One of mia's buddies has a writeup with the correct cutting bit for routing out the rear toe bolt holes. Just make sure you have some blocks of wood, plenty of grease, and a rubber mallet to fit it all back together.
Below is a picture of my rear alignment with the SPC camber kit.
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Edit: I too have doubts about Kinetix's quality. I've had other parts of theirs break on me, and have seen some quality issues with other items from them.
I got them for about $220 from a place in Orlando. Great deal.
As far as the install, it's pretty simple. One of mia's buddies has a writeup with the correct cutting bit for routing out the rear toe bolt holes. Just make sure you have some blocks of wood, plenty of grease, and a rubber mallet to fit it all back together.
Below is a picture of my rear alignment with the SPC camber kit.
![](http://www.craiglofton.com/hostedimages/350z/My350zPics/offsets.jpg)
Edit: I too have doubts about Kinetix's quality. I've had other parts of theirs break on me, and have seen some quality issues with other items from them.
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Here are some good write ups on the this.
http://g35driver.com/forums/showthre...netix+traction
http://g35driver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35796
I think I can get a discount through IAP for being a member of the Florida G35 Club. Let me know if you want me to look into it.
http://g35driver.com/forums/showthre...netix+traction
http://g35driver.com/forums/showthread.php?t=35796
I think I can get a discount through IAP for being a member of the Florida G35 Club. Let me know if you want me to look into it.
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Another vote for the SPC setup; great for camber adjustments and only (or one of very few) way to correct toe. You can get them here also:
http://www.iapdirect.com/item.asp?invid=785
Good luck!
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Originally Posted by BriGuyMax
Got a link for those? They don't even list them on the website.
Call BJ Zacharias from www.350evo.com/ wright tuning...
i think he has a few sets left.
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The SPC toe bolt write up was lost on my server but I think protocav may still have a copy. I'll see if I can get it from him if you need it. Trust me and everyone else here, don't waste money on Kinetix or 350 Evo. The SPC units work the best for the least amount of money. The traction arms are absolutely the worst way to adjust toe. When they do adjust it at the same time they alter rear caster and stress the entire assembly. The only PROPER way to adjust toe is to change the position of the spring bucket which is done with the SPC toe bolts. For front camber absolutely the EVo A arms are the way to go. For the rear the SPC offers everything you need at the abolsute best price on the market.