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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 10:58 AM
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Question How much should I pay for Brembos from a 2003 350z?

I was wondering how much I should for used Brembos off a 2003 350z.
Also, will they fit on my 2007 350z?

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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 11:05 AM
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you should be paying around 1800-2400 depending on condition.

I don't think they will fit but i'm not sure. I know someone here should be able to answer that for you.

I got mine right at 2000.
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 11:10 AM
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Sorry to jack your thread if I am but are they really worth an extra $2,000?
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 11:14 AM
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Sorry to jack your thread if I am but are they really worth an extra $2,000?
They actually are. They can be even more expensive if the person upgraded with nice rotors and pads and even stainless steel brake lines.

An aftermarket BBK front and back will be well over $4500 and the minimum. i think 2000 is cheap for what you are getting.
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 11:17 AM
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There was a set of used AP racing in the market place for $2500 full set.
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperBlack350
They actually are. They can be even more expensive if the person upgraded with nice rotors and pads and even stainless steel brake lines.

An aftermarket BBK front and back will be well over $4500 and the minimum. i think 2000 is cheap for what you are getting.
Thanks.

I actually couldn't tell the difference between my stock touring brakes and the brembos. Will have to check it out one day!
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by KG350Z
Thanks.

I actually couldn't tell the difference between my stock touring brakes and the brembos. Will have to check it out one day!

well, i can tell you from my experience. The stock brakes and teh oem brembos, they feel exactly the same. You really won't gain any better braking unless you track your car and use your brakes hard. It's really just for looks if you just drive your car everyday with normal brakes.

I did a couple of hard stops at high speeds and i know for a fact that the brembos are better. I missed a local autocross event so i can't even comment on that yet.
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 11:27 AM
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The 2003 ones should fit though right?

I feel like I'm going for them for the looks right now. Are there alternatives if I'm just going for looks?
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 11:38 AM
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There only advantage is they dont get heat soaked as fast.
Braking performance is the exact same, as the normal OEM

I track my Z often and with stock brakes and aftermarket pads, I rarely suffer heat soak issues, but then I know good braking control
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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someone answer the poor guy's question
Will 03 brembos fit his 07?
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 11:41 AM
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whats heat soak?
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 11:55 AM
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brakes need heat for them to work, since its based on friction after all.

However when brakes get too hot from repeated and heavy use, they glaze over reducing their friction and also pocket of very hot air forms between the pad and the rotor. This together cause the brakes to not be able to stop as well.

So bad braking means poor and dangerous track performance, and it you dont get the brakes cooled the heat can travel though the lines and boil the fluid, causing the master cylinder to stop working nearly all together.


I dont know if 03 and 07 brakes are compatible, other then looks their is no point in changing them. It should be rather easy to see if the clearance and bolts line up

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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by SolarOrangeZ
The 2003 ones should fit though right?

I feel like I'm going for them for the looks right now. Are there alternatives if I'm just going for looks?
The alternative would be caliper paint, I've done this and it looks great. If looks are what youre going for do this and just get some Hawk HPS pads for the extra stopping power.


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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 12:03 PM
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I've seen them go between $1000-1500, I wouldnt pay more for used brakes.
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Originally Posted by Brrcats
The alternative would be caliper paint, I've done this and it looks great. If looks are what youre going for do this and just get some Hawk HPS pads for the extra stopping power.



Hahaha, I just might be happy going Brrcats route. So pretty much caliper paint, and decal + Hawk HPS pads for super stopping power. Thanks everyone....for helping this "poor guy" out.
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by MagicPie
brakes need heat for them to work, since its based on friction after all.

However when brakes get too hot from repeated and heavy use, they glaze over reducing their friction and also pocket of very hot air forms between the pad and the rotor. This together cause the brakes to not be able to stop as well.

So bad braking means poor and dangerous track performance, and it you dont get the brakes cooled the heat can travel though the lines and boil the fluid, causing the master cylinder to stop working nearly all together.


I dont know if 03 and 07 brakes are compatible, other then looks their is no point in changing them. It should be rather easy to see if the clearance and bolts line up
First of all brakes don't need heat to work...it's the aftermath of friction...ideally you would want to brake with superconducting materials that dumped the heat into the air...hence brake cooling ducts

glazing is essentially overheating the brake pad material which then melts onto the rotors in ridges essentially reducing your braking surface and acting as a dry lubricant under heavy braking.

and finally the reason that boiling the fluid is bad is because you're converting small ammounts of water in your fluid (almost inevitable to have some moisture...better with racing fluids) into air in your brake lines...which gives you the spongy feel of death...or no brake power because air is compressible while brake fluid isn't supposed to be.

What you really gain with Brembos is typically better brake modulation...basically a more controlled braking...and more braking force due to larger or more pistons...

BBK is definitly the way to go on the track...you don't have nearly as much heat soak issues because the larger rotors have longer moment arm form the hub and therefore don't need to generate as much heat to slow you down...yea you have higher brade pad to rotor speeds but this is negligible.

Back to your original question...paint the originals...if it's for looks...you can have the originals painted with high temp paint...done nice for less than 200 bucks...
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by SolarOrangeZ
Hahaha, I just might be happy going Brrcats route. So pretty much caliper paint, and decal + Hawk HPS pads for super stopping power. Thanks everyone....for helping this "poor guy" out.

that would look decent but no where to looking good as a big brake kit with single piece pistons.

I would get stainless steel brake lines if you want a better feeling braking. I hate hawk pads. Their initial bite is horrible. I switched to Axxis ultimates and they are way better.
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 01:47 PM
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I can't seem to say this enough on these forums: PAINTED NON-BBK CALIPERS LOOK LIKE ***. And not J-Lo's *** either. It is such a ridiculous step to take that I don't know why anyone would even do it. WHY?

If it looks good, it does to the owner's eyes only, much like a huge stainless steel wing on a '91 Accord looks terrific to the guys who chose it, but provides all of us with just another thing to point and laugh at in a parking lot.

If someone doesn't have a BBK, they need to deal with it or buy a BBK. Don't deface your beautiful car just because you want to imitate Brembos (much like the confused soul who once posted pics here with Brembo decals and paint on his OEM calipers).
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by gjoey66
First of all brakes don't need heat to work...it's the aftermath of friction...ideally you would want to brake with superconducting materials that dumped the heat into the air...hence brake cooling ducts
And what do you think friction is, brakes in a vacuum with no means of absorbing thermal heat, wouldn't brake. Brakes do rely on heat, heat is friction. Kinetic energy is transfered into thermal energy

I was stating the easy to understand basic, I figured there was no need for details.

Originally Posted by gjoey66
BBK is definitly the way to go on the track...you don't have nearly as much heat soak issues because the larger rotors have longer moment arm form the hub and therefore don't need to generate as much heat to slow you down...yea you have higher brade pad to rotor speeds but this is negligible.
BBK main concept is that they have a larger surface area, to absorb and dissipate heat. Their slots and drills on the face are used to generate heat(friction) quickly for faster stopping power, and the other result for them is when the brake gets too hot and pockets fr air form, there are channels or holes for it to escape.

Hence the use of ceramic brakes, on race cars, they absorb the heat quickly aiding stoping power, another result is they absorb heat away from the pad to prevent from glazing. When the brakes are release ceramic also cools down quickly to avoid heat soaking

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Calipers
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