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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 01:19 PM
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For those fimilar with Z32's they have an air deflector that attaches to the tension rod to deflect air to the rotor to help them cool. http://www.courtesyparts.com/betasit...tml?cPath=882&

I was wondering if anyone has tried this on a Z33 and if it yielded any benefit. This would be alot easier than cutting holes and running hoses everywhere for ducting for those that only do DE's and not competivitly race.

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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 01:36 PM
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Considering we don't have tension rods or really anything in front of the lower strut arm to mount it on, i would have to say , it won't do us much good.
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 06:39 AM
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oops, yeah, i just realized that after looking through the FSM. Oh well, tubing time.
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anyone ever seen the brake dust shield for an IS300?



it's shaped to funnel air onto the rotor for better cooling...simple design yet very effective! after changing the brakes on one I was very impressed with the level of detail toyota took in designing these parts. I wonder if anyone has fabbed up something like this.
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by island03z
anyone ever seen the brake dust shield for an IS300?



it's shaped to funnel air onto the rotor for better cooling...simple design yet very effective! after changing the brakes on one I was very impressed with the level of detail toyota took in designing these parts. I wonder if anyone has fabbed up something like this.
That looks like a heavy *** piece of steel though. I wonder if it adds a lot of unsprung weight. Anyone have pictures of what ours look like?

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I am working on something but figure it's not worth posting yet until I can get some data this weekend.
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It was aluminum from what I could tell...it sticks out past the wheel so its sticking into the air stream in the inner fender well. I think if someone just recreated our dust shields with that extra lip itd work pretty well...I know it would have helped me very much on the track I used to drive
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Lexus isn't the only car to do that. my 1979 Ford had a similar set of bends in the shield to help "scoop" air to the rotors....not a new concept.

ducting would be beneficial for us I do believe....
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Originally Posted by mcarther101
That looks like a heavy *** piece of steel though. I wonder if it adds a lot of unsprung weight. Anyone have pictures of what ours look like?
I'm sure it would add some weight, but keep in mind that the shield/caliber assembly doesn't rotate with the axle/wheel, so it's not adding weight to your rolling mass and it's at a low center of gravity, which is also better. In any case, I think air ducting is the best solution in our cars.
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Well here is what I made using the plastic deflectors from a Porsche 994 since the 300zx ones wouldn't work. After heat problems at the track using Base brakes and overheating the EBC Yellows I decided something had to be done.
Since I was not interesting in hacking things up for ducting I found these deflectors the solution and because they were good enough for a Porsche I knew they would be good enough for me.
The brackets were made using 1/4" 6061 and it requires no modifications to any stock components, which was one design requirement. These actually can also be used with ducting so that the ducting can stay stationary instead be being vibrated up and down with suspension travel. Just aim the ducts to these and the deflector can direct the air to the rotor.
If there is enough interest I can pursue getting these manufactured, if not just enjoy the pics.

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Why not just use a better pad?
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The Yellows are the most aggressive EBC makes to be still able to drive on the street. After than requires switching pads for events and even with full race pads heat management is still important.
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Some full race pads work great on the street. I don't know if they are available for the floating OEM calipers, but the Hawk DTC-70/60 pads are a full race pads that work great when cold on the street.
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Originally Posted by cellude
Well here is what I made using the plastic deflectors from a Porsche 994 since the 300zx ones wouldn't work. After heat problems at the track using Base brakes and overheating the EBC Yellows I decided something had to be done.
Since I was not interesting in hacking things up for ducting I found these deflectors the solution and because they were good enough for a Porsche I knew they would be good enough for me.
The brackets were made using 1/4" 6061 and it requires no modifications to any stock components, which was one design requirement. These actually can also be used with ducting so that the ducting can stay stationary instead be being vibrated up and down with suspension travel. Just aim the ducts to these and the deflector can direct the air to the rotor.
If there is enough interest I can pursue getting these manufactured, if not just enjoy the pics.

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Looks simple enough. How did these work out on the track?
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