EDIT: Not sure what I was thinking when I made this thread. Maybe a little bit of ricer came out?

I'm currently running the HKS Hipermax 3 non-sport with SPC camber all around. I love the Hipermax 3s (very comfortable) but I need something that will provide a little more "aggressive set-up".

I don't mind if it's a little more jarring/stiffer. I'm actually expecting other systems to be way harder than the Hipermax 3s anyways.
I would like a little more drop as well (haven't figured out how much yet).
My Z is a daily driver & I would like to take it to track every few months or so. Yes, I never got around to taking the Z to the track

I was thinking about replacing the system with the Stance GR+. Would I be upgrading or downgrading with the characteristics mentioned above? Why or why not?

Any informative inputs are welcome and I'm sorry if this is a repost.

 

Nobody? How about just an overall opinion about Stance GR+?

 

after talking with a sponsor on here last night, youre definitely going to be downgrading with the stance coils. he said bc's w/ shorter rear springs would be the way to go. however, i will be buying stance anyways because their customer service is pretty good and other stance owners love them.

 

Explain more please

 

bc racing coilovers. and you can order them with shortened rear springs since the rear doesn't go as low as the front on the normal ones. So if you want a pretty nice ride and a more aggressive drop... that would be the way to go. If you want a harsher ride, and a slammed drop, stance would be the way to go.

this is all of course imo.

 

Well Stance runs a higher spring rate then Hiper3 coilovers. Are the rears of the Hipermax OEM style or is it a complete coilover.

Well I have gr+ and I like them, they can be harsh depending on the setting. I'm running the full coilover version of the set up. I've only been on them for a week so take my input with that in mind. They are pretty firm and amazed how much eash click changes the ride. They are okay on bumpy roads and when the road is smooth it doesn't feel floaty like the stock shocks and springs. I was thinking of getting Hiper3 coilovers, because they are a street/track coilover with more street in mind. From What stance told me the Gr+ is a street/track with more track in mind. Depending the cost I was thinking of get lower rate Swift springs and a Stance OEM set up, but If your interested maybe we can trade plus cash if your up to it.

Here is my car with Stance gr+

 

Hmm, I'm already leaning towards Stance Thanks

The rear is OEM style.
Well unless you accept credit card, I may have to pass... and depending on how much you want for the trade. IDK just PM if you want.

 

http://stance-usa.com/sus/index.php?...sion&Itemid=43
On their it says the ride height is 200mm. What is that in inches? 8?
And Are their 2 different types of Stance GR+? (one OEM one full coilover)

 

Why don't you first take the car to the track to see how the Hipermaxes perform and then make a decision from there?

I for one would never even consider the purchase you are pondering, but that is me.

 

I've got a set of GR+ Pro's brand new in box for sale, $1150 shipped with 12k/11k custom rates. Dampening is supposedly higher quality than the Hipermax III from what various vendors have told me but I never got a chance to install them to find out.

 

Yes Stance GR+ come in two styles. OEM which is a 12f/11r spring rate and Full coilover style with a 12f/5r which is what I have

 

How come?
I would like to go to a track but every time I try, something ALWAYS comes up and considering my schedule lately I doubt I'll be able to anytime soon.

This is a bit of an noob question probably but I'm just going to ask anyways Having lower # of spring rate means what exactly? stiffer ride pretty much?

 

Why not just get the III Sports?

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Fawk you Kwame

I have the GR+ Pros. They feel a lot better than stock as far as feedback and predictability but the ride is brutal on certain rodes and the true coilovers are pretty noisy in the back.

Kwame and Adam talked me in looking into different coilovers because they are some evil *****

 

Too bad you can't ban him yourself now.

 

wat

Too bad you fial yourself.

 

**Keep in mind this is just my opinion, in no way shape or form am I telling you what to do.**

From what I can see there really is no reason for you to downgrade from the HKS' to the Stance coilovers. You mention that you want to lower the car some more, the HKS coilovers are capable of SLAMMING your car. They are able to literally bring the car down as low as anyone would want to drive a daily driver ANYWHERE.

Your second reason for wanting to switch your coils is because you are looking for a more "aggressive set-up." You are going to have to further explain what you mean by this statement, I'm not really following what you mean. It would be one thing if you had already had the chance to take the HIpermaxes out on the track and you were disappointed in there performance, but you haven't.

I just would hate to see you spend your money on what in my opinion is an inferior product. At the end of the day the money is yours and I hope you do what makes you happy.

 

It's all good.

Thats how we roll, SON!

 

means nothing - it's all relative to the damper that is working with the spring. The only truly meaningful comparison is different spring rates on the same damper

I too am lost by what you refer to as an aggressive setup - you still have not mentioned what exactly about your current setup that you don't like, nor have you had it in an environment where "aggressive" would even be advantageous. Aggressive in terms of what? Drop? Harshness over bumps (not something one shoots for on a street car..plus it will wreck the coilovers in short order, not to mention bushings (ehem...Blasian )?

We get this same exact PM probably 10 times a week - don't talk yourself into something you don't need, especially when you can't define what it is you actually want. You gotta be honest with yourself when modding the car. The point is to make it better than stock, not worse, and to fulfill a certain want or need that you have that the stock setup does not fulfill. No one can honestly tell me they want a car that rides worse than stock - you might want a setup that is not as floaty as stock, but you still want it to absorb bumps and not toss you around in the seat over ever crevace in the road. If you want a setup that is firmer, you can do many things...increase dampening, play with tire pressure, increase spring preload.

 

the stance coilovers would definitely be a downgrade