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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 11:43 AM
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I want to put on a BBK with the least amount of expense but still have quality.

I have a Super Black '04 ZR, initially a non-brembo set-up.....then I put on iforged 19" aluminum wheels w/custom offsets, added Hawk HPS pads & I was told that the wheels will clear a BBK. I will also test the clearance with a BBK template.

I like the Wilwood kit but it's not in my budget $$$!

Can I do this set-up with no problems?

1. Buy Genuine Brembo Rotors, slotted & dimpled (just under 13") front.
2. Buy Wilwood (Black) 6 piston calipers for front.
3. Buy Hawk's HPS pads or Wilwood pads.
4. Buy ss lines & Wilwood fluid.

Rear:
1. Buy Genuine Brembo Rear Rotors, slotted & dimpled.
2. Buy Wilwood (Black) 4 piston calipers for rear.
3. Buy Hawk's HPS pads or Wilwood pads.
4. Buy ss lines & Wilwood fluid

Do I need any additional hardware?.....again, can this set-up work?
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 11:55 AM
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kind of off topic but i don't understand why anyone would put hawk hps pads on after spending the money for a bbk... well i guess if the bbk was more more for show than go.

real brake pads make noise... hhaha. sorry, couldn't resist.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 11:58 AM
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Stock brembos w/ upgraded pads and slotted rotors...I have some for sale.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by sluggoZ
I like the Wilwood kit but it's not in my budget $$$!

Can I do this set-up with no problems?

1. Buy Genuine Brembo Rotors, slotted & dimpled (just under 13") front.
2. Buy Wilwood (Black) 6 piston calipers for front.
3. Buy Hawk's HPS pads or Wilwood pads.
4. Buy ss lines & Wilwood fluid.

Rear:
1. Buy Genuine Brembo Rear Rotors, slotted & dimpled.
2. Buy Wilwood (Black) 4 piston calipers for rear.
3. Buy Hawk's HPS pads or Wilwood pads.
4. Buy ss lines & Wilwood fluid

Do I need any additional hardware?.....again, can this set-up work?

Not quite understanding your question,.. are you saying just buy (any?) Wilwood 6 piston caliper?

you'll need the knucke-to-caliper adapter piece to properly mount the caliper to clear the rotor size..

so are you asking where to purchase this adapter piece? or.. where u thinking that this was a simple buy X part and put on?


imho. save up $, there are used BBKs and good deals that come up once in a while...better to buy a pre-made kit from a company than to try to piece together your own..
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 12:14 PM
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brakes and tires are the most important parts on the car. do it right. i recommend complete kits from stoptech , ap, wilwood, or oem brembo.

ap here....
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by julian
kind of off topic but i don't understand why anyone would put hawk hps pads on after spending the money for a bbk... well i guess if the bbk was more more for show than go.

real brake pads make noise... hhaha. sorry, couldn't resist.
Ok...I hear ya...that's a mistake...a higher grade pad
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 12:41 PM
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Give Alex from OnADimePBS a PM stating what you're looking for. Great CS and great prices. Right now my 13" front kit is being completed and should be in my hands before too long.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Chebosto
Not quite understanding your question,.. are you saying just buy (any?) Wilwood 6 piston caliper?

you'll need the knucke-to-caliper adapter piece to properly mount the caliper to clear the rotor size..

so are you asking where to purchase this adapter piece? or.. where u thinking that this was a simple buy X part and put on?


imho. save up $, there are used BBKs and good deals that come up once in a while...better to buy a pre-made kit from a company than to try to piece together your own..
My thinking is that maybe I could save a grand. I would need an adapter, yes, where can I buy one?...the caliper (350Z) would have to fit the correct thickness of the rotor. Some of these big name kits are way over-priced!
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by sluggoZ
My thinking is that maybe I could save a grand. I would need an adapter, yes, where can I buy one?...the caliper (350Z) would have to fit the correct thickness of the rotor. Some of these big name kits are way over-priced!


where can you buy one? it comes with a pre-fabbed kit! haha.

these 'adapters' i'm speaking of are ones that are designed to match specific rotors sizes and thicknesses, as well as position the caliper to the correct angle for maximum pad surface area, AND designed to hold the caliper on the knuckle during braking forces. yea hypothetically speaking if you were to get the adapter designed and CNC'd for cheap (which i'll tell you now is not cheap) is "saving a grand" really worth it vs the piece of mind that something as important as brakes (read: safety). big name kits have actual engineering designs and modeling simulations to justify their design (i.e. structural and thermal).. its not just put 1/2" thick slab of aluminum drill four holes and hope it works-kind of thing.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by sluggoZ
My thinking is that maybe I could save a grand. I would need an adapter, yes, where can I buy one?...the caliper (350Z) would have to fit the correct thickness of the rotor. Some of these big name kits are way over-priced!
Hey man,

I'm sure you got the PM back. As far as the mounts go, it's usually a specific kit type of mount (wilwood's mount won't work with AP, Stoptech etc.) because of offsets and other variables so using brembo rotors with wilwood calipers is possible but not really worth it seeing as there's other (cheaper) options.

Keep in touch and we can work something out

Originally Posted by got556
Give Alex from OnADimePBS a PM stating what you're looking for. Great CS and great prices. Right now my 13" front kit is being completed and should be in my hands before too long.
You got it boss! Thanks for the kind words.
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by sluggoZ
I want to put on a BBK with the least amount of expense but still have quality.

I have a Super Black '04 ZR, initially a non-brembo set-up.....then I put on iforged 19" aluminum wheels w/custom offsets, added Hawk HPS pads & I was told that the wheels will clear a BBK. I will also test the clearance with a BBK template.

I like the Wilwood kit but it's not in my budget $$$!

Can I do this set-up with no problems?

1. Buy Genuine Brembo Rotors, slotted & dimpled (just under 13") front.
2. Buy Wilwood (Black) 6 piston calipers for front.
3. Buy Hawk's HPS pads or Wilwood pads.
4. Buy ss lines & Wilwood fluid.

Rear:
1. Buy Genuine Brembo Rear Rotors, slotted & dimpled.
2. Buy Wilwood (Black) 4 piston calipers for rear.
3. Buy Hawk's HPS pads or Wilwood pads.
4. Buy ss lines & Wilwood fluid

Do I need any additional hardware?.....again, can this set-up work?

brembo does not make slotted/dimpled rotors for the Z

you won't save anything because the rotor you are asking about is not meant to run with the caliper. You can't buy an adapter. When Chebosto said it's not cheap to have the adapter made, he ain't kidding. I had this exact thing done for my Datsun a couple years ago. A single set of caliper adapters, made from billet, to mount AP 6 pots to my 280ZXT. The cost for these and the 2 hats I needed for the front rotors was around as much as I think a Wilwood front brake kit sells for
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Old Jan 7, 2009 | 03:44 PM
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Look here

...Is that what you're talking about?



Looks like they have 4 wheel kits available too

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Old Jan 9, 2009 | 03:48 PM
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If you want to do it cheap, but still have quality brakes, I'd find a set of used OEM brembo's all around. Unless you're a weekend track day warrior, the OEM brembo's will make you plenty happy without breaking your bank.

If you really want to go big though, nothing beats a Brembo big brake kit.
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Old Jan 9, 2009 | 05:46 PM
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Thanks guys for all of your suggestions!
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Old Jan 10, 2009 | 01:09 PM
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I would just get a factory Brembo set used. Many people have used factory NON-Brembo brakes at the track without issue. As far as I know they were all nearly stock hp cars, though. Just get the right pads and brake fluid and go have some fun.

I'm not saying the factory non-Brembo brakes are up to par, just that they work well enough. I would do a lot of degrading things for a set of OEM Brembo's right now.
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 09:10 AM
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Well...I decided to save up for more cash & I'm going with the Wilwood kit....I found a great buy & it was not here on this forum....especially when buying the front & rear kit, a nice discount can be had. Thanks for your comments.
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Originally Posted by Chebosto
Not quite understanding your question,.. are you saying just buy (any?) Wilwood 6 piston caliper?

you'll need the knucke-to-caliper adapter piece to properly mount the caliper to clear the rotor size..

so are you asking where to purchase this adapter piece? or.. where u thinking that this was a simple buy X part and put on?


imho. save up $, there are used BBKs and good deals that come up once in a while...better to buy a pre-made kit from a company than to try to piece together your own..
I have to agree with Cheston on this one.

The mod bug manta: Its broken,wore out, stock part no longer available; therefore I buy a better part.
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