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Old 02-05-2009, 02:21 PM
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Im planning to get tanabe nf210 and i was wondering if i needed a camber kit. the site said it would lower the front and the rear by 1.2 inch. I was planning to install it myself and just get an alignment. I hope that does not wear my tires because tires don't come cheap.

i just want to get it lower for the more aggressive look and handles slightly better. I am currently tight on what i can spend. any help or suggestion would help a lot.

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Old 02-05-2009, 02:23 PM
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normally with a drop more than 1.5 a camber kit is necessary if you want your tires to last longer than a few thousand miles. it might not be what you want to hear but i would still recommend a camber kit for that much of a drop.

Hope i helped out a bit. GL with everything
Old 02-05-2009, 02:23 PM
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any time you lower a car with springs it's always a good idea fixing the camber, so yes, get a camber kit.
Old 02-07-2009, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by antthanee
I hope that does not wear my tires because tires don't come cheap.
Then don't lower the car.

You are buying a suspension-tire headache. But it will look cool. And that's what counts.
Old 02-07-2009, 10:20 AM
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I would definitely suggest a camber kit. I have RSR springs, and they are advertised as only a .5" drop. Its a little more than that now that they have been settled, and I definitely have some camber issues. Its not just the camber that wears tires, it is also the toe angle. The rear camber/toe kits are only going for around $150 shipped, so its not really too bad.
Old 02-07-2009, 11:51 AM
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Im planning to get lower at some point because the gap on the z is huge.. thanks for the opinion because lowering a car will give some headaches. i just want to avoid the headache of uneven wear on the tires if it is because of the camber kit that i need, but if its unnecessary then i dont want to waste money for it.
Old 02-07-2009, 11:54 AM
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aloah,
what product are you talkin about that is running for 150 for camber/toe.. are you talking about the eibachs? spc? etc.. if you can send me a link directly to where i can get it cheap. i appreciate it.. THANKS in ADVANCE
Old 02-07-2009, 11:56 AM
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thank you, z members.. any more suggestions are always welcome
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Anything more than 1" should have a camber kit.
Old 02-21-2009, 10:58 PM
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If you lower the car at any distance, youll get negative camber, right? So, is it just not noticeable until you lower at 1" or more?
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I don't believe that it's because that it's not noticeable, but because it will still be within OEM camber specs if you lower a little.
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Originally Posted by zettahertz
I don't believe that it's because that it's not noticeable, but because it will still be within OEM camber specs if you lower a little.
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Originally Posted by zettahertz
I don't believe that it's because that it's not noticeable, but because it will still be within OEM camber specs if you lower a little.
It's also important to remember that the OEM specs for camber and toe are an allowable range, not a set value. For instance, I am lowered on Hotchkis springs (no more than 1" lower than stock in the rear) and the dealer tells me they are able to pull the rear wheels back into OEM alignment specs, but I have a feeling they are on the ragged edge of the allowable values because I still manage to burn the inner edge of my rear tires sooner than I think I should.
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^ What's your camber set to? The OEM specs range is from -1.1º to -2.1º for the rears. It's all a compromise of handling/tire wear. I think mine's at -1.9º and 2.0º. No clue how it'll wear though 'cus my tires blown and i can't drive my car after alignment.
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Originally Posted by Spork
Anything more than 1" should have a camber kit.


If you're going with the NF210s, do yourself a favor and get front and rear cambers kits (don't try to find reasons or people to justify not getting them). I would probably go with the SPC kit.
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so you def need front and rear camber kits....damn....kind of pointless to buy springs isn't?
Old 02-27-2009, 06:08 AM
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I don't see how it's pointless to buy springs... Just an additional couple hundred dollars if you opt for going lower than 1". If you don't want to "spring" for the camber kit (pun!), save yourself some $$ and go for less of a drop or none at all.
Old 02-27-2009, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by maximariceboi
so you def need front and rear camber kits....damn....kind of pointless to buy springs isn't?
It's not really pointless at all actually. You do realize that you need to buy front and rear camber kits for coilovers as well, right? Just a more affordable way of lowering the car.
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ok so what about ride quality with camber kit and springs compared to coilover? is it a big difference?
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Originally Posted by dmplaya786
ok so what about ride quality with camber kit and springs compared to coilover? is it a big difference?
That's too broad of a question. Some springs/coilovers are aimed towards track and the performance end of suspension work... while others are aimed towards slight performance increases while (attempting) to save ride quality.

In the grand scheme of things coilovers are (usually) able to out perform springs performance, though that's not true in all cases. Then you have the issue of how the coilover is designed and how much adjustibility you have with them, etc etc. Honestly, my recommendation... search. Do alot of searching. There is tons of info out there for almost every spring/coilover setup.


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