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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 08:00 PM
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Im getting ready to throw my Stance coilovers onto my ride and wondering how far of a drop I would be able to "safely" lower my car, being a DD in California. Im riding on 18" wheels (see sig).

How far does everyone with coilovers drop their rides?
If so, do you have them on your DD? Thanks
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 08:15 PM
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^do you have any camber arms/toe bolts??? If not you wont be able to go past .8" without going out of spec
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It really all depends on personal taste. Some people slam their DD's, so it all depends on how big of a drop you're willing to put up with. My Z is lowered about 1.3 inches and its my DD. But like JPE22 said, you'll need camber arms and toe bolts if you lower anything close to an inch. Good luck!
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 08:29 PM
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yeah ive got the rear camber links only because I was told I wouldnt need the a arms with a moderate drop up to 2". Pete from IntensePower told me this so I think its pretty reliable source.
My main goal is removing most of the fender gap without having serious scraping issues when driving around.
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 08:33 PM
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yeah ive got the rear camber links only because I was told I wouldnt need the a arms with a moderate drop up to 2". Pete from IntensePower told me this so I think its pretty reliable source.
My main goal is removing most of the fender gap without having serious scraping issues when driving around.
No camber arms up to 2 INCHES? are you sure it's not .2 inches? Mine's lowered 1.25 and I have about half a finger gap with my stock 18's
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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 08:39 PM
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No camber arms up to 2 INCHES? are you sure it's not .2 inches? Mine's lowered 1.25 and I have about half a finger gap with my stock 18's
haha f***! Well Ill call him first thing tomorrow and double check. I do remember him saying a slam would need a arms but anything moderate woudnt need them. Since he was a vendor and not trying to force a product on me I think its pretty credible information. Those damn arms are expensive too! I guess itll all come down to my alignment issues after install.

Just need a basis for lowering it inch-wise. 1.25 was that after settling or before? What coils are you rolling on?
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Originally Posted by pizzato16
haha f***! Well Ill call him first thing tomorrow and double check. I do remember him saying a slam would need a arms but anything moderate woudnt need them. Since he was a vendor and not trying to force a product on me I think its pretty credible information. Those damn arms are expensive too! I guess itll all come down to my alignment issues after install.

Just need a basis for lowering it inch-wise. 1.25 was that after settling or before? What coils are you rolling on?
Slamming a Z starts at about the 1 inch mark.

FYI you own a sports car , its already low from the factory.
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Slamming a Z starts at about the 1 inch mark.

FYI you own a sports car , its already low from the factory.
haha thanks for the update man. For some reason I thought slamming it was when its sitting on the ground and thats all, but that makes sense. Ill call again and check with Pete to see if A arms will be required. based on the info provided and my search I think ill go 1" all around with room to settle. Thanks guys!
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Originally Posted by pizzato16

Just need a basis for lowering it inch-wise. 1.25 was that after settling or before? What coils are you rolling on?
1.25 before settling. I'm on eibach sportline springs with stock shocks
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1.25 before settling. I'm on eibach sportline springs with stock shocks
Ok i might go with the same drop then. I figure a good .5" settling drop will happen after. Ill measure my fender gaps tomorrow and make a decision.
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haha f***! Well Ill call him first thing tomorrow and double check. I do remember him saying a slam would need a arms but anything moderate woudnt need them. Since he was a vendor and not trying to force a product on me I think its pretty credible information. Those damn arms are expensive too! I guess itll all come down to my alignment issues after install.

Just need a basis for lowering it inch-wise. 1.25 was that after settling or before? What coils are you rolling on?
Please do confirm, if that stands we have a company that is inventing things to say in order to get product out the door. Their is nothing credible about the mistruth of saying you can drop the Z up to 2" without needing camber correction, it is a lie. The most accurate answer is to say dependent on tire and wheel choice, that drops up to about .7" can typically align to within oem camber and toe specs without the need for aftermarket correction. As cars go past that point things are on a downward slope. Past 1.2" and it's extreamly rare, I start asking for proof as in pics of the parts installed, sitting on the alignment rack, and a scan of the after alignment printout that show's the car was within spec.

Are you uninstalling some Bilstein coilovers by chance?
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Just keep lowering until you can barely clear the average speed bump and not destroy your undercarriage. As far as the front lip, you WILL find a steep driveway to kiss the ground no matter how low you go.

Just realized you're in San Diego.
We have some of the worst road conditions right now since we haven't had the funds to re-pave our roads for the past few years. You will get rocked if you're not paying attention to the pot holes, bumps and dips etc.. in front of you.

I would do a fairly conservative to aggressive drop for now then lower some more once you get comfortable or the roads get better.
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Please do confirm, if that stands we have a company that is inventing things to say in order to get product out the door. Their is nothing credible about the mistruth of saying you can drop the Z up to 2" without needing camber correction, it is a lie. The most accurate answer is to say dependent on tire and wheel choice, that drops up to about .7" can typically align to within oem camber and toe specs without the need for aftermarket correction. As cars go past that point things are on a downward slope. Past 1.2" and it's extreamly rare, I start asking for proof as in pics of the parts installed, sitting on the alignment rack, and a scan of the after alignment printout that show's the car was within spec.

Are you uninstalling some Bilstein coilovers by chance?
Thanks for the info. I wont be lowering 2" And the company told me I wouldnt need them with a moderate drop. I just threw in the 2" because i thought thats where moderate dropping ends and slamming begins but terrasmak corrected me there. I have the stance gr+ with OEM rear fitment.
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Just keep lowering until you can barely clear the average speed bump and not destroy your undercarriage. As far as the front lip, you WILL find a steep driveway to kiss the ground no matter how low you go.

Just realized you're in San Diego.
We have some of the worst road conditions right now since we haven't had the funds to re-pave our roads for the past few years. You will get rocked if you're not paying attention to the pot holes, bumps and dips etc.. in front of you.

I would do a fairly conservative to aggressive drop for now then lower some more once you get comfortable or the roads get better.
NJ roads are in the same condition. Some roads i used before this past winter i can't even drive on anymore making 15 minute trips more like 30 minutes just to avoid what know can destroy my car..
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Originally Posted by 35oZephyR
Just keep lowering until you can barely clear the average speed bump and not destroy your undercarriage. As far as the front lip, you WILL find a steep driveway to kiss the ground no matter how low you go.

Just realized you're in San Diego.
We have some of the worst road conditions right now since we haven't had the funds to re-pave our roads for the past few years. You will get rocked if you're not paying attention to the pot holes, bumps and dips etc.. in front of you.

I would do a fairly conservative to aggressive drop for now then lower some more once you get comfortable or the roads get better.
Good to hear that straight from a San Diegan. Yeah roads here suck and I do pretty good of avoiding the potholes and crap in the road (i.e. shoes, ladders, tires and treads, etc.). I have a 2" gap in the rear and 1.5" in front right now. You think a 1" drop with fenders rolled and room to settle would suffice?
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U have stance coilovers man, dont be a P*ssy and slam that bish! Make sure you have rear camber arms and toe bolt. U may get away without the Aarms but

Stance = SLAM
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Originally Posted by JPE22
U have stance coilovers man, dont be a P*ssy and slam that bish! Make sure you have rear camber arms and toe bolt. U may get away without the Aarms but

Stance = SLAM
Ill slam it when I move outta state which is still about a year away. but yeah that why I bought them.
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^good sh*t man, so is your rpf1 wheels have the +15 offsets? If so slamming your car is a must with them! If not ill trade u my buddyclub for your stance LOL
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Originally Posted by JPE22
^good sh*t man, so is your rpf1 wheels have the +15 offsets? If so slamming your car is a must with them! If not ill trade u my buddyclub for your stance LOL
of course theyre 18x9.5 +15 all around and the tire bludge just barely sticks out of the fender line. I cant wait to get them installed! Maybe ill take some pics of it slammed, then raise it up a little and get aligned
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I'm down in San Diego all the time. 20mm drop and drag all over the place. North county isn't that bad , but the design of the east (Chula Vista ) sucks.
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