why r alot of z owners seem obsessed with project mu brakes
edit: Do you mean "adamant"? LOL!
Last edited by Lee R; Mar 31, 2010 at 08:40 PM.
Sorry Off Topic again - Why have I not been able to find a relocation kit that just moves the stock Brembos out to accommodate larger rotors? Are the stock Brembos not capable of this?
Actually now that i think of it I did see this but can't find the company who does it anymore. I also saw a kit that let you put z32 calipers on a z33. I don't think that company is making their kit anymore either.
I know the BBKs out there are better than the brembos but it would be nice if you already have the Brembos to be able to throw a larger rotor in.
Actually now that i think of it I did see this but can't find the company who does it anymore. I also saw a kit that let you put z32 calipers on a z33. I don't think that company is making their kit anymore either.
I know the BBKs out there are better than the brembos but it would be nice if you already have the Brembos to be able to throw a larger rotor in.
the caliper has a radius that matches the overall diameter of the rotor...
at a point the pad on that "moved" caliper is not lined up as intended for wear...
plus forces change, and its still the same diameter piston in that caliper, intended to have only so much clamp pressure when engaged......you get to a point of stretching thin and run the risk of heating them up..... its your car, you decide....
-J
Last edited by JasonZ-YA; Apr 1, 2010 at 07:38 AM.
caliper location changes the radius from center.........
the caliper has a radius that matches the overall diameter of the rotor...
at a point the pad on that "moved" caliper is not lined up as intended for wear...
plus forces change, and its still the same diameter piston in that caliper, intended to have only so much clamp pressure when engaged......you get to a point of stretching thin and run the risk of heating them up..... its your car, you decide....
-J
the caliper has a radius that matches the overall diameter of the rotor...
at a point the pad on that "moved" caliper is not lined up as intended for wear...
plus forces change, and its still the same diameter piston in that caliper, intended to have only so much clamp pressure when engaged......you get to a point of stretching thin and run the risk of heating them up..... its your car, you decide....
-J
Last edited by SilverJDMCoupe; Apr 3, 2010 at 05:48 AM.
Because Z owners are morons who claim they can "afford" Volks but are neck deep in Volk and Project Mu related credit card debt and need to have roommates at 35 to pay their mortgage.
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I have to disagre that Projuect Mu or Endless are better brakes than stoptech. For any type of racing this uni-body road car is going to see which is likely NASA racing or Koni Grand Am at best the Stoptech will do everything just as well as Project Mu or Endless. If your talking about JGTC cars then you might see an advantagre with a monoblock Endless caliper over an ST-60F/ST40R Stoptech setup for a $13K premium. Project Mu is a poor choice of brakes for racing/HPDE as the pad selection is minimal and very expensive. Most Porsche fitment pads fit the Stoptech calipers. I can get ST-40 calipers with 355mm discs shipped to me for $1999 and find unlimited compound cheap track pads easilly for them. Rotora/Greddy (Not Greddy ALCON) has the same issue with pad selection. Very limited for the track. I mean that's why everyone is buying these BBk's anyway right? To be a track warrior not a parking lot poser! Right?
Last edited by JETPILOT; Apr 4, 2010 at 03:24 AM.
I have to disagre that Projuect Mu or Endless are better brakes than stoptech. For any type of racing this uni-body road car is going to see which is likely NASA racing or Koni Grand Am at best the Stoptech will do everything just as well as Project Mu or Endless. If your talking about JGTC cars then you might see an advantagre with a monoblock Endless caliper over an ST-60F/ST40R Stoptech setup for a $13K premium. Project Mu is a poor choice of brakes for racing/HPDE as the pad selection is minimal and very expensive. Most Porsche fitment pads fit the Stoptech calipers. I can get ST-40 calipers with 355mm discs shipped to me for $1999 and find unlimited compound cheap track pads easilly for them. Rotora/Greddy (Not Greddy ALCON) has the same issue with pad selection. Very limited for the track. I mean that's why everyone is buying these BBk's anyway right? To be a track warrior not a parking lot poser! Right?
I will clarify my statement. If your not competing where hundredths of a second can mean the diference between first place and second then it doesn't matter what brakes are on your car. Racing takes a huge investment of capital to run a competetive team and investors need to see wins. No wins = no money = no more racing.
Race cars rely on solid suspension bushings, forged control arms, chasis rigidity through cages etc. Put a more rgid Endless monoblock caliper brake on my car or a Stotech brake on my car I will still make it around Sebring with a grin on my face not having known which one was installed. No brake fade is no brake fade. Neither will fade.
In addition I am not a good enough driver to take advantage of a monoblock caliper on my uncaged unibody car with compliant bushings. So why spend the cash if the advantage of a monoblock caliper is a mute point for my needs or anyone elses needs who is reading this thread. I mean lets be real!
I don't drive JGTC cars so I can't comment if the advantages of an Endless monoblock caliper are real or not. Measuring the rigidity of a caliper in a laboratory and being the winner is only half the story. Hom much was the rigidity of the caliper a factor in lap times anyway.
Anybody who drives on the track will realize that it's not what brake your driving with it's the guy behind the wheel and anbody interested in perfromance driving will always recognize that the driver is always the weakest link. People should foces as much attention on developing their driving skills on the track as they do on what brake they put on their car.
99% of all BBK's never see track use anyway. It's too bad that 99% of people will never explore all that added performance they added to their car and be astounded at what the car is now capable of.
Race cars rely on solid suspension bushings, forged control arms, chasis rigidity through cages etc. Put a more rgid Endless monoblock caliper brake on my car or a Stotech brake on my car I will still make it around Sebring with a grin on my face not having known which one was installed. No brake fade is no brake fade. Neither will fade.
In addition I am not a good enough driver to take advantage of a monoblock caliper on my uncaged unibody car with compliant bushings. So why spend the cash if the advantage of a monoblock caliper is a mute point for my needs or anyone elses needs who is reading this thread. I mean lets be real!
I don't drive JGTC cars so I can't comment if the advantages of an Endless monoblock caliper are real or not. Measuring the rigidity of a caliper in a laboratory and being the winner is only half the story. Hom much was the rigidity of the caliper a factor in lap times anyway.
Anybody who drives on the track will realize that it's not what brake your driving with it's the guy behind the wheel and anbody interested in perfromance driving will always recognize that the driver is always the weakest link. People should foces as much attention on developing their driving skills on the track as they do on what brake they put on their car.
99% of all BBK's never see track use anyway. It's too bad that 99% of people will never explore all that added performance they added to their car and be astounded at what the car is now capable of.
Last edited by JETPILOT; Apr 8, 2010 at 12:50 AM.
