Track/Brembo owners: What pads are you running?
11-26-2003, 01:59 PM
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We have used Hawk HPS on just about every WRX that has rolled in our shop in the last 3 years...not one car has ever had a problem, and many guys run several track days a year plus use it as a daily driver.
Absolutely out of your mind if you do that.
We run the HP Plus on our ITS car...
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11-28-2003, 08:31 AM
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Originally posted by Jason@Performance
We sell the NISMO Brembo Brake Pads on our web site.
We can also get Brembo Rotor Upgrades to Drilled Rotors.
$383.75 for the front
$366.25 for the Rear
We sell the NISMO Brembo Brake Pads on our web site.
We can also get Brembo Rotor Upgrades to Drilled Rotors.
$383.75 for the front
$366.25 for the Rear
I have been told my guys who race who race in SCCA events that drilled rotors are not recommended because it will weaken the rotors (even if their made that way).
They always use non-drilled rotors. They said you can get away with slotted rotors.
Thoughts?
thanx
11-28-2003, 02:57 PM
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We run an ITS E30...and have run many many tracks on the east coast this year alone, from as far north as New Hampshire, and as far south as VIR. Car is dead on consistent, and the only thing it lacks is more power consistently, and is a top finisher at many tracks (we won the NY Regional this season).
I have done many many trackdays with various Subaru's over the last 4 years and nearly every time (with the exception of my own car, which ran Mintex 1155 which came with the brakes I ran), we ran the HPS's or HP Plus.....and never had an issue at all, with stock rotors or with DBA's and KVR's (both drilled and slotted versions have been used).
I have done many many trackdays with various Subaru's over the last 4 years and nearly every time (with the exception of my own car, which ran Mintex 1155 which came with the brakes I ran), we ran the HPS's or HP Plus.....and never had an issue at all, with stock rotors or with DBA's and KVR's (both drilled and slotted versions have been used).
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11-28-2003, 08:36 PM
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Originally posted by uro279
Jason,
I have been told my guys who race who race in SCCA events that drilled rotors are not recommended because it will weaken the rotors (even if their made that way).
They always use non-drilled rotors. They said you can get away with slotted rotors.
Thoughts?
thanx
Jason,
I have been told my guys who race who race in SCCA events that drilled rotors are not recommended because it will weaken the rotors (even if their made that way).
They always use non-drilled rotors. They said you can get away with slotted rotors.
Thoughts?
thanx
Slotted rotors are better for tracking.
Drilled are more for looks. Most people buying big brake kits want drilled.
I'd use 13" rotors on the track. 14.1 more for show. I feel atleast.
11-28-2003, 09:53 PM
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Originally posted by Jason@Performance
Yes,
Slotted rotors are better for tracking.
Drilled are more for looks. Most people buying big brake kits want drilled.
I'd use 13" rotors on the track. 14.1 more for show. I feel atleast.
Yes,
Slotted rotors are better for tracking.
Drilled are more for looks. Most people buying big brake kits want drilled.
I'd use 13" rotors on the track. 14.1 more for show. I feel atleast.
Also, aren't the Track Brembo's 13? And for a plug for the Brembo's, BJ says that their excellent as is.
Lastly, I have heard that the Viper and Corvette guys use 'Brakeman' (spelling?) brake pads. What do you guys think of these?
thanx
11-28-2003, 09:55 PM
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HPS on track?
Absolutely out of your mind if you do that.
I would like to know what model ITS car and what track you run with HP+. Because the tracks near me, if you bring HP+ to stop your car, you'll be in the kitty litter in 4 laps.
HPS on track?
Absolutely out of your mind if you do that.
I would like to know what model ITS car and what track you run with HP+. Because the tracks near me, if you bring HP+ to stop your car, you'll be in the kitty litter in 4 laps.
11-28-2003, 09:55 PM
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Your last statement is interesting. Aren't bigger rotors always better for cooling? If so, then why use the 13" v. 14.1?
Your last statement is interesting. Aren't bigger rotors always better for cooling? If so, then why use the 13" v. 14.1?
11-29-2003, 08:24 AM
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Well of course you're going to be biased.
and is a top finisher at many tracks
Honestly, I don't know why you don't run Blues. The Hawk list price for Blues for the E30 is only $79. And NO ONE pays list price anymore. Anyone can get 10%-20% off list from somewhere. Shop around and you can likely find them for 60something, easy. Hawk's giving those pads away practically.
At least you aren't using EBCs
11-29-2003, 01:06 PM
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Originally posted by MaddMatt
Also: not legal
Also: not legal
Are they the same strength?
Do the slotted rotors dissipate more heat? But if it's weaker, is it worth the trade-off?
Also, why are drilled rotors illegal?
thanx
ps have you heard of 'brakeman or breakman' brakepads? If so, what are your thoughts on them?
11-29-2003, 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by uro279
Which rotor is better: Slotted or non-slotted?
Are they the same strength?
Do the slotted rotors dissipate more heat? But if it's weaker, is it worth the trade-off?
Also, why are drilled rotors illegal?
Which rotor is better: Slotted or non-slotted?
Are they the same strength?
Do the slotted rotors dissipate more heat? But if it's weaker, is it worth the trade-off?
Also, why are drilled rotors illegal?
The advantages of drilled and slotted rotors is that they give you improved bite for any given pad type. They can also help reduce the "air hockey" effect during the green fade that occurs when first bedding in new pads, by giving the gasses some place to go. And they tend to keep the surface of the pads free of any glazing due to overheating.
If you go to a "real" racing event, you will find that virtually nobody runs drilled rotors any more. They either run slotted or plain rotors. However, the public still STRONGLY associates drilled rotors with racing, so some Mercedes (AMG) and Porsche models come with drilled rotors.
I don't know what you mean by the comment about drilled rotors being illegal. They are certainly allowed in the United States.
11-29-2003, 03:44 PM
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They are not legal in the most common forms of SCCA racing (Showroom stock, improved touring, stock and street prepared auto-x classes). The highest levels like GT and Production may allow them I don't know for sure. Sorry for the confusion.
They're made (or at least used to be) by Kerr Friction Products (heard of KFP Magnum brake pad? Same thing). KFP also makes Porterfield's pads. It's all the same stuff, different box.
have you heard of 'brakeman or breakman' brakepads? If so, what are your thoughts on them?
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11-29-2003, 07:24 PM
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11-30-2003, 08:28 AM
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Originally posted by Jason@Performance
We can get them with Blue Calipers. It is $100 more.
We can get them with Blue Calipers. It is $100 more.
Hollywood photographer Andrew Macpherson's BMW Z8 w/silver StopTech calipers
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11-30-2003, 10:27 AM
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Jason - Give Bob Lee a call about the two shades of blue they offer. It's no longer extra cost as of December. It just requires a 3-4 week lead time. Silver calipers are also a no-cost option.
Hollywood photographer Andrew Macpherson's BMW Z8 w/silver StopTech calipers
Jason - Give Bob Lee a call about the two shades of blue they offer. It's no longer extra cost as of December. It just requires a 3-4 week lead time. Silver calipers are also a no-cost option.
Hollywood photographer Andrew Macpherson's BMW Z8 w/silver StopTech calipers
12-01-2003, 08:55 AM
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Originally posted by Jason@Performance
I will call and double check the info I was givin last week.
I will call and double check the info I was givin last week.
I'm changing my web site right now.
Sorry for the confusion!