Whiteline vs Energy Suspension Bushing kit?
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Whiteline vs Energy Suspension Bushing kit?
What bushing kit is best? Whiteline or Energy Suspension? I plan on tuning the car for a drift setup for when I have time to track the car again. Anyone have either of these sets? Which is better and more long-lasting?
Also, how many miles can I expect to get out of either of these bushings?
Any other mods I should consider besides adjustable camber/traction rods, front control arms, coilovers, sway bars & cup kits?
Also, how many miles can I expect to get out of either of these bushings?
Any other mods I should consider besides adjustable camber/traction rods, front control arms, coilovers, sway bars & cup kits?
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i hear a clunk whenever i am parking, going over bumps and coming to stops. i used plenty of grease and everything was professionally installed at a shop. i got new balljoints too.
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Energy hasn't been around long enough to know how long it will last. it is a bit stiffer than Whiteline, but they are notorious for squeaks on nearly every platform they make bushings for (even with their grease installed). Whitelines are silent in my experience, on this, and other platforms
Not to mention, longevity will largely be a function of the conditions under which it's used, road quality, etc.
Install wise, while a bit more difficult, the Whiteline is a superior setup all around and covers more locations vs the Energy setup - Whiteline literally makes a bushing to replace every single factory one save for exhaust bushings
Not to mention, longevity will largely be a function of the conditions under which it's used, road quality, etc.
Install wise, while a bit more difficult, the Whiteline is a superior setup all around and covers more locations vs the Energy setup - Whiteline literally makes a bushing to replace every single factory one save for exhaust bushings
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Bump for Z1's post.
I installed whiteline front bushings and am stoked about how sharp it feels. I am going to get the whiteline bushings for the rear now. The Front doesn't squeak or clunk. It's super responsive and true. I'm hoping between the install of the rear bushings, a set of solid diff and subframe bushings, it will bring the rest of the suspension gear in to a whole new realm of awesome.
I highly recommend the Whiteline products! Z1 usually has some awesome deals, give them a call, they helped me with my conversion.
I installed whiteline front bushings and am stoked about how sharp it feels. I am going to get the whiteline bushings for the rear now. The Front doesn't squeak or clunk. It's super responsive and true. I'm hoping between the install of the rear bushings, a set of solid diff and subframe bushings, it will bring the rest of the suspension gear in to a whole new realm of awesome.
I highly recommend the Whiteline products! Z1 usually has some awesome deals, give them a call, they helped me with my conversion.
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My energy bushings are great. Huge improvement over stock, turning feels tons better. I haven't really noticed much noise either but that could be because my exhaust is louder than any simple squeaks. What bothers you guys so much about all these little noises? If you want a completely quiet car this probably isn't the car for you in the first place..
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I just replaced all of my bushings with energy suspension busings and love how much tighter and responsive it feels, the ont thing that I will be changing out is the compression rod bushing with the SPL bushing. I have been very happy with ES bushings and have been using them for years and have never had any squeeks or issues with the past few vehicles that I have put them in.
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There seems to be a misconception that SPL bushings don't squeak.
The SPL compression rod bushings do squeak. As you use the bushings, the teflon coating wears out. The combination of road contaminant, water, salt, sand, dirt, debris all wear out the SPL bushings, causing the moving parts to trap on the bushings and wearing out the spherical bearings.
My SPL bushings squeak, but they have no play. Although spherical bearing makers recommend against lubricating teflon lined bearings, the only way to reduce or temporarily eliminate the squeaky noise is to lubricate them.
The SPL compression rod bushings do squeak. As you use the bushings, the teflon coating wears out. The combination of road contaminant, water, salt, sand, dirt, debris all wear out the SPL bushings, causing the moving parts to trap on the bushings and wearing out the spherical bearings.
My SPL bushings squeak, but they have no play. Although spherical bearing makers recommend against lubricating teflon lined bearings, the only way to reduce or temporarily eliminate the squeaky noise is to lubricate them.
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Hate to raise the dead but I'm also pretty disappointed.
I have the full front kit and I have the gap on the compression rod chassis bushing, it squeaks everytime i go over a speed bump or driveway or rough road (yes its greased like the install said to). I just bought the whiteline bushing to replace it.
Also the strut-lower control arm bushing is tearing and i've only got about 6k miles on them.
Overall the kit was a good price, hopefully they honor their warranty without much hassle. The handling is very crisp and sharp. The ride has gotten noticeably harsher especially over the pot hole infested roads of Honolulu. I bought the kit mainly to replace the stock torn bushings on my daily driver but I do occasionally auto-x so I expected the harshness and figured I could live with it.
I decided to order the compression arm bushing from whiteline to replace the energy's after some research seeing as how it could possibly do more harm than good and that I couldn't live with the noise.
Update: ES warrantied the torn bushing without any hassle and replaced it with a different design. Hopefully these last longer than the last one but overall I'm satisfied with their customer service.
I have the full front kit and I have the gap on the compression rod chassis bushing, it squeaks everytime i go over a speed bump or driveway or rough road (yes its greased like the install said to). I just bought the whiteline bushing to replace it.
Also the strut-lower control arm bushing is tearing and i've only got about 6k miles on them.
Overall the kit was a good price, hopefully they honor their warranty without much hassle. The handling is very crisp and sharp. The ride has gotten noticeably harsher especially over the pot hole infested roads of Honolulu. I bought the kit mainly to replace the stock torn bushings on my daily driver but I do occasionally auto-x so I expected the harshness and figured I could live with it.
I decided to order the compression arm bushing from whiteline to replace the energy's after some research seeing as how it could possibly do more harm than good and that I couldn't live with the noise.
Update: ES warrantied the torn bushing without any hassle and replaced it with a different design. Hopefully these last longer than the last one but overall I'm satisfied with their customer service.
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I seen that ES sells a 'Master Kit'. Does this kit replace the main bushings that need replacing? I want to swap my bushings in my DD because i am starting to hear clunking. I would much rather go with WhiteLine instead though. Could someone tell me where to find all of the bushings needed to replace the main ones? I have heard that Z1 doesn't sell all of the WhiteLine bushings.
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Same Company
It looks like Whiteline and Energy Suspension are made by the same company:
Diverse Suspension Technologies
2355 County Road 490
Stephenville, TX 76401
Check the websites side by side.
Diverse Suspension Technologies
2355 County Road 490
Stephenville, TX 76401
Check the websites side by side.
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That address is listed nowhere as a manufacturing source or parent company on either the Energy or Whiteline site.
What sir, are you talking about.
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Hate to raise the dead but I'm also pretty disappointed.
I have the full front kit and I have the gap on the compression rod chassis bushing, it squeaks everytime i go over a speed bump or driveway or rough road (yes its greased like the install said to). I just bought the whiteline bushing to replace it.
Also the strut-lower control arm bushing is tearing and i've only got about 6k miles on them.
Overall the kit was a good price, hopefully they honor their warranty without much hassle. The handling is very crisp and sharp. The ride has gotten noticeably harsher especially over the pot hole infested roads of Honolulu. I bought the kit mainly to replace the stock torn bushings on my daily driver but I do occasionally auto-x so I expected the harshness and figured I could live with it.
I decided to order the compression arm bushing from whiteline to replace the energy's after some research seeing as how it could possibly do more harm than good and that I couldn't live with the noise.
Update: ES warrantied the torn bushing without any hassle and replaced it with a different design. Hopefully these last longer than the last one but overall I'm satisfied with their customer service.
I have the full front kit and I have the gap on the compression rod chassis bushing, it squeaks everytime i go over a speed bump or driveway or rough road (yes its greased like the install said to). I just bought the whiteline bushing to replace it.
Also the strut-lower control arm bushing is tearing and i've only got about 6k miles on them.
Overall the kit was a good price, hopefully they honor their warranty without much hassle. The handling is very crisp and sharp. The ride has gotten noticeably harsher especially over the pot hole infested roads of Honolulu. I bought the kit mainly to replace the stock torn bushings on my daily driver but I do occasionally auto-x so I expected the harshness and figured I could live with it.
I decided to order the compression arm bushing from whiteline to replace the energy's after some research seeing as how it could possibly do more harm than good and that I couldn't live with the noise.
Update: ES warrantied the torn bushing without any hassle and replaced it with a different design. Hopefully these last longer than the last one but overall I'm satisfied with their customer service.
Your shock fork bushing got ripped apart due to the 2 nipples on the actual damper fork. Happened to me and ES told me I have to grind those down, and they gave me new bushings for free.
So far I am happy