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Old Apr 12, 2012 | 08:29 AM
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Perfect opportunity to add swift springs.
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Old Apr 12, 2012 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by AllstarE4
Perfect opportunity to add swift springs.
yea i wonder if the helpers would be enough..
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Old Apr 12, 2012 | 09:37 AM
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It makes sense to me now, i thought about it on my way to work lol...my rears are RETARDED stiff, not girlfriend approved at all and my dampening is on full soft...will look into softer springs
Bingo, 8k mounted in the spring bucket is completely different than an 8k mounted on the damper.

8k in the spring bucket has the same (well close to) rate as 4k mounted true
10k in the bucket is equal to 5k true.
The 8k rear as a true would require a 16 to 17k front spring.

You have the springs and mounts to run OEM style, why waste money on the different rear springs? There is no rear reason to run true coilover, the only reason i did on my car is i didn't have the spring mounts and SPL was backordered on there spring bucket.

BTW great reading http://farnorthracing.com/autocross_secrets5.html pay close attention to Coaxial Spring Mounts

Then look at the left side of the page, many great pages of reading. You may be able to learn something. Some of the stuff will be over your head, some of the stuff is still over my head. But you can slowly learn it over time.
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Old Apr 12, 2012 | 10:10 AM
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that's very inexpensive. i wouldn't trust my life with cheap suspension components, but feel free to give a review for the community.
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Old Apr 12, 2012 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by terrasmak
Bingo, 8k mounted in the spring bucket is completely different than an 8k mounted on the damper.

8k in the spring bucket has the same (well close to) rate as 4k mounted true
10k in the bucket is equal to 5k true.
The 8k rear as a true would require a 16 to 17k front spring.

You have the springs and mounts to run OEM style, why waste money on the different rear springs? There is no rear reason to run true coilover, the only reason i did on my car is i didn't have the spring mounts and SPL was backordered on there spring bucket.

BTW great reading http://farnorthracing.com/autocross_secrets5.html pay close attention to Coaxial Spring Mounts

Then look at the left side of the page, many great pages of reading. You may be able to learn something. Some of the stuff will be over your head, some of the stuff is still over my head. But you can slowly learn it over time.
thanks for the info, good stuff...the rears i have don't have the option of running non true style, came stock the way they are with no option of using spring bucket or additional hardware (some generic track coils). I prefer the true so I can run toe arms and get additonal toe adjustment..i think some helper or software springs should do the trick
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Old Apr 12, 2012 | 11:50 PM
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out of curiosity, if ran 8kg in rear as true type, this would cause stiff ride and cause the shocks to wear out quick?
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 02:04 AM
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I don't think it would make the shocks wear out too quickly, but the problem is that it doesn't allow the shocks to do their job properly. Basically you are over compensating with too stiff a spring and there isn't proper shock travel.

I'm not a suspension guru, but this is what I understand. Maybe terrasmak will clarify.
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by xxxlino
out of curiosity, if ran 8kg in rear as true type, this would cause stiff ride and cause the shocks to wear out quick?
Yes, I have 8k true style and it is no joke. Not for DD at all. Rear really sticks to the road though lol
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 06:37 AM
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Maybe I`ll try out both someday, but as for now, I`ll see how the true style feels.
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 06:41 AM
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Maybe I`ll try out both someday, but as for now, I`ll see how the true style feels.
Since you haven't installed the rears yet it might be a good time to just swap it back to OEM setup. Terrasmak knows his stuff.
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 08:35 AM
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^ this may be true, but 4k would be way way to soft for me. I had a 6k rear in my light *** 240sx and is was way way to soft....
I`m not saying at all he doesnt know his stuff.....I`m going by what someothers have said about the oem style being a bit bouncy and soft.
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 08:41 AM
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OK so here is what they look like maxed out. My camber is pretty rough. They also havent settled yet so it`ll be even lower soon and i`ll have to re adjust once it does so. This is just the front.



Today I`ll install the rears and show the toe arm and spring bucket length difference.
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 09:35 AM
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What size rims are those? 18's or 19's? They look close to what mine looked like when I had mine maxed out.. So if you wanted to, you couldn't lay the frame on the ground??
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 1991ls13
OK so here is what they look like maxed out. My camber is pretty rough. They also havent settled yet so it`ll be even lower soon and i`ll have to re adjust once it does so. This is just the front.

Today I`ll install the rears and show the toe arm and spring bucket length difference.
I didn't realize they were 4k rear springs. That actually may be just right for the true type setup.
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 12:17 PM
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One post to answer most of the questions etc etc.

To stiff of a spring will wear out shocks fast , really fast.
4k seems soft, but motion ratio is what makes it still. As said a 4k in the true position is equal to an 8k in OEM position.

To the person running the 8k rear saying they have great traction. Sorry , you don't . The stiffer the spring, the stiffer the sway bar, the less traction you have. Springs have to be matched to the tires, I'm bumping up to a 6k but I run wide RS3's and have a functional GT wing.
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 02:06 PM
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hard to believe the fronts won't go lower than that
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 02:18 PM
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agreed, something went wrong
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 02:19 PM
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putting mine on in the morning...we'll see
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 07:24 PM
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Correct, you cannot lay frame, fronts maxed....

No i didnt do anything wrong. They still need to settle.

Rear i put on and are just as slammed and DIDNT max out. Still could go about a 1/8-1/4" lower. I`ll put pics up of that. Badly need to roll and slightly pull.

Toe is out of wack for sure. Need to get my toe arm once i ship back the traction arm that wass sent instead.

Over all so are. The rears are in true style with a 7k spring.. Doesnt feel to feel IMO. Im about 6 clicks hard and will be going probably three clicks from all the way stiff.
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Old Apr 13, 2012 | 07:54 PM
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There's gotta something inconsistent somewhere on these batches....shaddy-z's Z was much lower than that by at least an inch in the front. He said he had more room to go lower in the first review thread



And z suspension lowers g35's an extra half inch and here's the fronts almost maxed out on a g35



something's going on lol
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