Ok, So i decided to make my own thread on these because I`m going to do have tons of pics and do the TRUE style, not oem. Also purchused camber arms and toe arms.

You recieve them in OEM style which is fine, but for someone that never assembled a coilover before, might get confused....These do not come with directions, or at least mine didnt. They came very well packaged which is of course a plus. Imo they look pretty good as in qaulity, but no, the dont look as `purdy` as stance or other $1k+ coilovers, but for 560 shipped, they look damn good. It only takes about 10 mins each rear coilover to make true style. I`m a little worried about the rear, seems a little iffy, seems like the springs might move under pressure....maybe its just me or i installed them wrong...who knows, didnt come with instructions. I also never received a receipt of any kind. Hoping to get that resolved.

Wasnt able to install today because, well of course it had to poor down rain and hail....Hopefully tomorrow I can get them in and finish the review.

Here are the pics in order:


Before assembled

After

These are what they look like in true style: If wrong please LMK:


And here are the arms:


Again hope to finish the review with an install.

 

Yes that is the order I installed mine... So you should be good. And BTW the blue arms go where the traction rod goes. It won't work for the toe arm. I have been talking to George today about the issue. He is trying to figure it out.

 

The springs won't budge, you just need to adjust the collars to tighten up the srping tension..

 

What are your spring rates ? You will need to buy different rear springs to run a true style.

 

FML are you serious! WOW! Now I`m a little heated then. Cause i remember the discussion about it and called george right away to confirm i ordered the toe arm.
Well good to know that i installed them correctly. But the rate are 10f and 8r i believe. And no, you dont need to buy different springs.

 

Actually you do need different springs if you understand suspension and know what motion ratio is. Also the shocks are not set up to damper an 8k spring when run with a 0.97 ratio. You will need something in the 3 to 4k range. I run a 4k rear with 12k front.

 

Then why would they say you can do either, and others have already set this up in true style before? ANd actually i think its 7 rear...??

 

I have true style coils that came stock with 8k rears...I don't know what your sayin terrasmak

 

Yea mdu run 7k in rear

 

As far as i know, only thing i`m upset about so far is the high chance i got toe rod instead of toe arms, even though i called after i purchased just to make sure they didnt get my order wrong...

 

There's no such thing as a toe rod Lol. There's a traction arm, toe arm, and camber arm.

 

supraturbo....`you have some explaining to do` but for real

 

In the OEM location the front wheel rate is 265lb and the rear 189lb with the 10k and 8k combo. With the rear 8k spring mounted on the damper as a true style the rear wheel rate is 421lb. This is bad, the proper front spring would be around 16k that will give you a wheel rate of 426lb, a much better match to the rear.

If you were to keep the 10k front, a 5k rear that would give you a wheel rate of 263lb or a 4k spring with a wheel rate of 210lb will be needed.

Also the front shocks are not valved to handle a 16k spring, the rear shocks are not valved to handle the 8k spring mounted on the damper. The 4k rear mounted as a true coilover would actually be the closest you can get with the damper/shock being able to handle the wheel rate.

 

^you just blew their mind!

In their world, if it fits, it works. And if someone else does it, they can too!

 

Hey I never said toe rod. That's all you. There's the toe arm, traction rod and camber arm.

 

I'm not running mdu rears and the true style coils I have came stock 10k and 8k. Even the fortune auto coilovers come stock 10k & 8k. Your saying they were built wrong too

 

so does the vendor recommend installing like a true type coilover?

 

Superturbo, I`ll find out today if it fit is the toe arm....and ^^ yes, also every person that I`ve read in the g35 forums etc say they much rather have either 1. ran them true, 2. They did and it was a much better ride.

From what i`m getting from jaE, is not even the front suppose to be 10k, it should be 16k, that a damn hard spring from what i`ve read...unless i missed something....and a 4k is one hellava soft spring.....You porbably have absolutey way more knowlege then i in this, but that seems crazy to run a 16kf and 4k rear.

So much different info, from so many different people

 

He's saying that you need a damper to be valved properly to match a spring rate. Also, you need a proper front/rear ratio for optimal suspension functionality.

Which coilovers are you running? They may not be "wrong", but they may not be right either. Budget coilovers are budget for a reason.

 

It makes sense to me now, i thought about it on my way to work lol...my rears are RETARDED stiff, not girlfriend approved at all and my dampening is on full soft...will look into softer springs