Coilovers vs. Wheels & tires
06-24-2013, 08:15 AM
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Tires. NOT wheels and tires. JUST tires. Save up for something else. The Z is a SOLID weekend track car from the factory and it looks GOOD in stock form. If anything, save up for a wider 18 or a lighter 18. Unless your track duty is drag racing, a 17 won't provide any benefit and the difference in tires is probably a weeks worth of Starbucks coffee. The Z was setup from Nissan to be, imo, one of the best factory weekend warriors of its time...for the money at least. Again, just opinion.
As far as your suspension is concerned, reducing body roll is what you want to do. Body roll lifts tires. The less tire on the ground, the less grip. Budget suspension (i.e. cheap coils) won't really do that. And I'm speaking from experience. I drift my car and my suspension has really made MUCH of a difference in my track duties. IN all honesty, I feel the car slides the same with it's stock suspension as now. It just looks better when it's 2inches from the ground. Stiffen the chassis up with sways before you go looking to drop. And, side note, that's less expensive than a coilover setup...quality or not.
Take your time. Don't be quick to rush into mods or do fads. If it's not for you, you'll regret it. And find people that DO or DID what you want to do. THOSE are the people who's brains you want to pick.
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As far as your suspension is concerned, reducing body roll is what you want to do. Body roll lifts tires. The less tire on the ground, the less grip. Budget suspension (i.e. cheap coils) won't really do that. And I'm speaking from experience. I drift my car and my suspension has really made MUCH of a difference in my track duties. IN all honesty, I feel the car slides the same with it's stock suspension as now. It just looks better when it's 2inches from the ground. Stiffen the chassis up with sways before you go looking to drop. And, side note, that's less expensive than a coilover setup...quality or not.
Take your time. Don't be quick to rush into mods or do fads. If it's not for you, you'll regret it. And find people that DO or DID what you want to do. THOSE are the people who's brains you want to pick.
GL.
Sways dont stiffen up a chassis. and if your worried about looks while your drifitng, you arent doing it right.
06-24-2013, 09:03 AM
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The only prob with 17's is that not everyone makes a 275/40-17 anymore. NT01 is available in that size, great tire
06-25-2013, 07:43 AM
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That said, I slammed my car because I liked the way a slammed car looks. I ALSO drift and my slammed car looks better drifting than the stock equivalent. Don't read to much into it to prove an internet point chief.
06-25-2013, 12:28 PM
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it's the internet pigpen. You should know by now, for every thing that doesn't happen in real life, there's somebody that does it on the internet seemingly only to conveniently disprove your point. Like, if I said you could roll a 350Z down a hill and slide it on it's roof into a parking lot and the car would look damaged afterwards, someone will pop up who rolled their car down a hill and slid it into a parking lot on its roof and the paint looked brand new. LOL.
06-25-2013, 01:22 PM
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it's the internet pigpen. You should know by now, for every thing that doesn't happen in real life, there's somebody that does it on the internet seemingly only to conveniently disprove your point. Like, if I said you could roll a 350Z down a hill and slide it on it's roof into a parking lot and the car would look damaged afterwards, someone will pop up who rolled their car down a hill and slid it into a parking lot on its roof and the paint looked brand new. LOL.
Damn these interwebs!
06-25-2013, 01:35 PM
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You're right. Keeping a car from rolling in transitions does not stiffen it. And you're right on worrying about looks while engaging in a sport that was largely based on visual appeal for the last 3 decades. Please, tell me more of your insight and wisdom.
That said, I slammed my car because I liked the way a slammed car looks. I ALSO drift and my slammed car looks better drifting than the stock equivalent. Don't read to much into it to prove an internet point chief.
That said, I slammed my car because I liked the way a slammed car looks. I ALSO drift and my slammed car looks better drifting than the stock equivalent. Don't read to much into it to prove an internet point chief.
06-25-2013, 05:55 PM
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06-25-2013, 06:26 PM
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Since when did the OP ask or care about drifting? Also, in the past 5 years drift cars have been moving away from looks to functional. Any FD car in the top 8, possibly top 16 has a proper roadrace suspension with roadrace style suspension travel. They did this to make the cars easier to control and bring the sport to the next level. Only the small time chumps still go off the slammed to the ground to slide crap.
drifting was simply giving a point of reference to why I said what I said. savvy?
06-25-2013, 06:39 PM
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I can't believe yaw are still arguing over this bs, this clearly is a **** contest b/c OP had left the building and started two useless thread about is it worth buying a set of $2,000 KW coils or Used coilovers... it's obvious he's thinking coils.
06-26-2013, 11:39 PM
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I've been to the track enough to know what problems my car has (a lot)... It's inability to keep 4 wheels on the ground and utilize maximum grip as well as handle weight transfers and body roll stick out most to me. I could care less for looks, because to me either way it's going to look good and stance and all the ******** are irrelevant
glad to hear you have track time to comment on:
Elaborate on you problem keeping 4 wheels on the ground?
couple things to consider:
which wheel is losing traction, is the rear inside wheel getting airborne?
wrong lines, hitting berms unnecessarily?
too stiff sway bar settings? (do you have adjustables?)
we have a starting point, now that "stance" and look are secondary (or not relevant at all) - good to hear by the way.
terra and threefifty have much more experience, listen to what they say
as for my path - was like threefifty said - I did tires first, made a world of difference; I did quaife next which was also a significant improvement (I haven't lifted a tire yet but my tracks are limited and flat); suspension is last.
pp
edit - sorry, saw your other thread - can reply here or there.
Last edited by palepony; 06-26-2013 at 11:58 PM. Reason: OP has other relevent thread