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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 08:51 AM
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So a 15mm spacer might still get the job done for me temporarily. When I had 2 spacers on there that equaled 15mm it was close but I think it would have worked. There was about a credit card thickness between the wheel and caliper, is that too close? That would put my fronts at a total of +7 offset, would this work without having to remove wheel liner and negative camber?

I'm not opposed to buying new wheels , just not right now. I just dropped 1900.00 on the brakes, no cash for wheels right now. I would like to enjoy my new brakes while I save for some new wheels. Spacers is a cheap fix/alternative for a few months.
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 10:57 AM
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It's your fault that the wheels doesn't fit. Not every wheel will fit with a akebono/bbk setup. You should have researched wheel size, width, offset and what will work with the akebono. What size and offset are your wheels? If it boils down to it these are your options..

run spacers if it rubs run minor stretch tires or add camber. Unless you want to sell the wheels

You'd have to contact a vendor and ask which size gt-s/challenges will fit over the akebono.

Congrats on the new brakes. Don't give up on them and research what size/offset works and contact vendors and ask them.
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 12:03 PM
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It's your fault that the wheels doesn't fit. Not every wheel will fit with a akebono/bbk setup. You should have researched wheel size, width, offset and what will work with the akebono. What size and offset are your wheels? If it boils down to it these are your options..

run spacers if it rubs run minor stretch tires or add camber. Unless you want to sell the wheels

You'd have to contact a vendor and ask which size gt-s/challenges will fit over the akebono.

Congrats on the new brakes. Don't give up on them and research what size/offset works and contact vendors and ask them.

I'm not trying to place blame on anyone or anything, its my fault for not doing my homework. Now I just need to figure out way to make it work.

I thought for sure these would have worked with my wheels. They are19x9.5 +22 with a 10mm spacer.
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 07maximan
So a 15mm spacer might still get the job done for me temporarily. When I had 2 spacers on there that equaled 15mm it was close but I think it would have worked. There was about a credit card thickness between the wheel and caliper, is that too close? That would put my fronts at a total of +7 offset, would this work without having to remove wheel liner and negative camber?

I'm not opposed to buying new wheels , just not right now. I just dropped 1900.00 on the brakes, no cash for wheels right now. I would like to enjoy my new brakes while I save for some new wheels. Spacers is a cheap fix/alternative for a few months.
That is cutting it too close for me to be comfortable with, especially since those wheels are not known for being very strong to begin with and you might end up scraping the caliper if they bend under load.

I think you should just sell the wheels or just hold off on installing the front brakes until you can figure this out.

Your other option is to just run the 20mm spacer and hope that it doesn't rub all the time
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 05:02 PM
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That is cutting it too close for me to be comfortable with, especially since those wheels are not known for being very strong to begin with and you might end up scraping the caliper if they bend under load.

I think you should just sell the wheels or just hold off on installing the front brakes until you can figure this out.

Your other option is to just run the 20mm spacer and hope that it doesn't rub all the time
Thanks for your help and advice. I'm shopping for wheels now. I'm not going to risk it. I need it done right. When I bought my wheels I wasn't thinking about a BBK so it wasn't a big deal. This is just a lesson I had to learn.
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 07maximan
Thanks for your help and advice. I'm shopping for wheels now. I'm not going to risk it. I need it done right. When I bought my wheels I wasn't thinking about a BBK so it wasn't a big deal. This is just a lesson I had to learn.
You did the right thing buying the brakes, I just am not a fan of those wheels.

From the top of my head you should be able to run the following:

SSR TypeF's 19x9.5 (+22) 10x10.5 (15)
SSR SP3 20x9.5 +25 20x11 +11
Volk TE-37's in 19x9.5 (+22) and 19x10.5 (+12)
Forgestar F14's 19x9.5 (+20), 19x11 (+18)
Volk GT-S Front: 19x9.5 +30 (A-disk), Rear: 19x10.5 +18 (C-disk)
Enkei Raijin & RPF1 18x9.5 (+35) square setup
Volk CE28's 19x9.5 (+22) and 19x10.5 (+12)
AME TM-02's 18x10.5 (+22) all around
NISMO LMGT4's, 19x8.5 (+25) & 19x9.5 (+30)
NISMO LMZ5 (370z accessory wheel)
370z Stock Rays Sport wheels
370z OEM NISMO wheels

If you don't like any of those just let me know the wheel and we can figure it out. I have a ton of friends with 370z's so you would just need to run the same setup that they are using

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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Waizzz
You did the right thing buying the brakes, I just am not a fan of those wheels.

From the top of my head you should be able to run the following:

SSR TypeF's 19x9.5 (+22) 10x10.5 (15)
SSR SP3 20x9.5 +25 20x11 +11
Volk TE-37's in 19x9.5 (+22) and 19x10.5 (+12)
Forgestar F14's 19x9.5 (+20), 19x11 (+18)
Volk GT-S Front: 19x9.5 +30 (A-disk), Rear: 19x10.5 +18 (C-disk)
Enkei 18x9.5 (+35) square setup
Volk CE28's 19x9.5 (+22) and 19x10.5 (+12)
AME TM-02's 18x10.5 (+22) all around
NISMO LMGT4's, 19x8.5 (+25) & 19x9.5 (+30)
370z Stock Rays Sport wheels
370z OEM NISMO wheels

If you don't like any of those just let me know the wheel and we can figure it out. I have a ton of friends with 370z's so you would just need to run the same setup that they are using

Thanks this is awesome. I know I want to stay with 19's, my tires are less than a year old. I'll do some research on the ones you posted but any others you can post would be great.
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 07maximan
Thanks this is awesome. I know I want to stay with 19's, my tires are less than a year old. I'll do some research on the ones you posted but any others you can post would be great.
19's are definitely easier to work with, lmk what you can afford and we can go from there. The ones that I posted range from affordable to baller depending on the wheel
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 06:07 PM
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I would have to stay in the 2000.00 range. Would the Enkei RPF 1 work with the 19's?
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 07maximan
I would have to stay in the 2000.00 range. Would the Enkei RPF 1 work with the 19's?
I remember my 19x10+22 RPF1s being pretty close to my Brembos in the front. I don't think they would clear Akebonos IMO.
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 06:24 PM
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I remember my 19x10+22 RPF1s being pretty close to my Brembos in the front. I don't think they would clear Akebonos IMO.
I'm running a 19x11 +25 with a 10 mm spacer, would that help these to fit?

Maybe I'm out of my element here, I'm thinking it might be easier to sell the brakes...
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 06:28 PM
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I just checked the website, the fronts are 19x9.5 +22, that's what I have know with the spacer and they fit nice. Would that clear my brakes?
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It's just one of those things man; trial and error. 19x9.5+22 Varrstoens will not clear Brembos or Akebonos while Volk TE-37s with the same specs will clear. There are a lot of factors involved. I would start looking on the 370Z forums and see what their experiences are with Sport Brakes.
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 06:56 PM
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What's causing the fitment issue?
Looking at the template, the caliper appears to be about 8.4" from centerline and 1.9" from rotor (slight rounding).
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by iStan
What's causing the fitment issue?
Looking at the template, the caliper appears to be about 8.4" from centerline and 1.9" from rotor (slight rounding).
The spoke of the wheel hits the tail edge of the caliper.
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So just looking at size and offset is not enough. You will need to take into account the design of the wheel.

If the spoke is what catches the caliper, you can use spacers to try to clear it, but then run into the problem with rubbing the fender and will need to adjust camber/ tire size to compensate like Waizz said.

Print out the template to gauge how far off you are.
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Old Jan 1, 2014 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 07maximan
I would have to stay in the 2000.00 range. Would the Enkei RPF 1 work with the 19's?
I installed the same 14" kit recently; printed off and made a cardboard template to check on one of my front RPF1's (18") before I ordered the BBK and they fit mine; 9.5"x18, 10.5"x18, all 4 +15. CZP told me that you should have at least 2mm clearance on barrel + spokes. Wish I could tell you the best offset for 19".

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Originally Posted by iStan
So just looking at size and offset is not enough. You will need to take into account the design of the wheel.

If the spoke is what catches the caliper, you can use spacers to try to clear it, but then run into the problem with rubbing the fender and will need to adjust camber/ tire size to compensate like Waizz said.

Print out the template to gauge how far off you are.
To play it safe it needs 20mm.
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Originally Posted by 07maximan
To play it safe it needs 20mm.
20mm is a lot of space, you would be more than safe! 25mm is basically 1".
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Originally Posted by BigBlue
20mm is a lot of space, you would be more than safe! 25mm is basically 1".
Actually 15mm would work but it's a little to close for me. 20mm would give it the extra clearance it would need.
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