GAaaAR

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Which ones are better and why? I think some people would pick the stillens being better because of their ability to adjust to the stiffness but then why would the nismo be more expensive then??Also even if u get the stillen theres really only one setting that is supposedly the best setting for everyday driving that the stillen sways should be set in, so that would mean it'll just be like the nismo, because of the fact that u basically wont adjust it much unless u go to a track anyway. So which one is better?? It would be helpful if someone has experiences of them both, but if not any thoughts are welcomed. Thank You.

Gsedan35

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Nismo's are not better because they cost more. I'll argue your paying more because of the name and that Nismo has to pay someone else to make the bars. You should get adjustable bars so you can fine tune the car to suit your given talent level. The whole purpose of sway bars is to fine tune, you can't do that with fixed bars. Furthermore, deep in the Nismo catalog, it tell's us the stiffness of the Nismo bars, they are stiffer in the front, not in the rear.

Nismo Sway Bar:
F: 36mm, hollow, 23.2 kg/mm
R: 22.2mm, hollow, 6.7 kg/mm

Front 1299lbs
Rear 375lbs

Oem
Front 1100lbs
Rear 380lbs

dansouliere

Who else makes sways for the Z?

jmark

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350Evo one of our sponsors. BJ can hook you up.

Gsedan35

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Here's a list of all the known sway bars you can buy and all known specs.

Nismo sway bars
Front 36mm (hollow core design, like the stock bar)
Rear 22mm (hollow core design)
.

Cusco sway bars
35mm front solid, not hollow
22mm rear solid, not hollow
Front sway bar has two settings of 20% and 37% stiffer then stock
Rear sway bar is 73% stiffer then stock.


Stillen 5-way adjustable bars
35mm front hollow 22mm rear hollow (converting from 1 3/8" & 7/8")
Claimed adjustment range 7% to 70% (unknown if both front and rear bars
have the same full 7% to 70% range)


Mines Sway bars
Front 20% stiffer rear 30% stiffer
$699.00(OUCH!)

Eibach specs from Eibach.com
34mm hollow front 22mm hollow rear
Front bar is 2-way adjustable, rear bar is 3-way adjustable


350EVO Sway bars 3-way adjustable front and rear
34mm front and 23mm rear solid bar construction, not hollow.
Front bar
middle adjustment 11% stiffer
stiff adjustment 33% stiffer

Rear bar
middle adjustment 25% stiffer
stiff adjustment 53% stiffer
Sway bar sets include front and rear bars, greasable bushings,
and brackets.


Hotchkis Sway bars
Front 1 3/8" (35MM) Hollow (Bar Weight 13.5lbs)
3 Position Adjustable
Rate Increase over stock
+9%,+32%,+63%

Rear 15/16"(24mm) Hollow (bar weight 5.5lbs)
3 Position Adjustable

Progress
http://www.progressauto.com/pages/04QR/04qrNissan.htm
Specs totally unknown and highly doubtfull they are adjustable bars. They are however a very well run company and a pleasure to talk to on the phone.

isugoo

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i have nismo. wasn't really impressed.
if you hold stock and nismo and each hand, i really didn't see difference much.
tiny bit thick and not noticeble weight. busings are also very simular to stock.

it seems like hookies are the bang for the bucks sways. it also allow you to adj. in 3 different setup.

dansouliere

Yeah the Hotchkis Sway bars look the best.

Thanks for the write up!

35ounces

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But Hotchkis dont have built in collars/stops which may or may not be a problem. There is a thread floating around about the issue.

GAaaAR

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So out of all the sways, which one is the general consensus of probably being the best?? Sways aren't really that expensive so i dont care about the price, I just want to kno which ones are the best.

dansouliere

It seems to be a 35$ fix.

They were also saying that its not required for street use but more for track use.

jmark

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350Evo sways are used by the GA Cup & T2 350Z race cars.

GaryM05

Here's another vote for the 350Evo bars. Designed, tested, and proven on the racetrack.

GAaaAR

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Ok Nismo sways or stillen sways?? Because i forgot to tell u, i have a g35 coupe, i dont think a 350evo bar will fit.. =\

Gsedan35

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Every single aftermarket suspension part ment for the Z, including sway bars mount, attach and work the same on the G.
Platform engineering is your friend.

Only thing as a G owner you can't use that is suspension related, are the front strut tower bars.

GAaaAR

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O really thanx alot gsedan for the info. In that case how much at 350evo bars and where can i get them for the cheapest price???

Gsedan35

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Well, 350EVO doesn't sell their parts from retailer's, it's factory direct only. Here's a direct link.

https://www.350evo.com/catalog/produ...fc3b37dbe17a06

thaibud

i have the nismo sways. i wouldn't recommend it - the understeer is pronounced with this upgrade. i had both the sway bars & nismo suspension installed @ the same time. it helps on cornering - but big on understeer.

Z33

I went with the Hotchkis both because the rates made sense to me and because they weren't much heavier than OEM. All the solid bars are considerably heavier, which is extra weight I don't have to put up with, given the availability of hollow bars.

The Hotchkis price is right, too, probably because they've been doing it a long time, and do it for a variety of applications. I got a set of collars to put on, but won't until I'm sure I need them; since my Z is a street machine, I may never need them.

Q45tech

The motion ratio [1:4] of the coupling point of the Nismo 22.2 rear bar is such that the bars are actually 93-95 pounds per inch of body roll measured at the wheel so the 6.7kg/mm rear bar is roughly 43-45% of total rear roll stiffness. Pretty much up to the ragged edge of ideal [less than 50%]............guess 10-11% stiffer bar might be tolerable depending on rear tire temperature.

All a stiffer front bar does is take away traction from the front tires [creates more understeer from overloading the front tires more] and diminishes the effect of a stiffer rear bar.